# The BeavChris and BArt-Head Show, Episode 3 *Bot hunting + Farcastea Matcha + Fart Action* By [The BeavChris and BArt-Head Show](https://paragraph.com/@bcbhshow) · 2024-04-10 --- Welcome to Episode 3 of [The BeavChris and BArt-Head Show](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/bcbhshow), a podcast for the Farcaster middle class. ### Clips: 1. BeavChris: playing whack-a-mole by myself [https://drakula.app/post/c9428cf7-e641-4303-8393-ca002982e132](https://drakula.app/post/c9428cf7-e641-4303-8393-ca002982e132)[?invite=Nhbkqw](https://drakula.app/post/3941d895-0626-4fcd-819d-be5d174cd57c?invite=Nhbkqw) 2. Ina: Farcastea's Aha Moment [https://drakula.app/post/e6da0eb5-c259-4bc3-8574-5f007b911d1f](https://drakula.app/post/e6da0eb5-c259-4bc3-8574-5f007b911d1f?invite=Nhbkqw)[?invite=Nhbkqw](https://drakula.app/post/3941d895-0626-4fcd-819d-be5d174cd57c?invite=Nhbkqw) 3. BArt-Head: they were farting on me live [https://drakula.app/post/58cdb4a2-0f58-4062-b29f-a4aba4c8083e](https://drakula.app/post/58cdb4a2-0f58-4062-b29f-a4aba4c8083e?invite=Nhbkqw)[?invite=Nhbkqw](https://drakula.app/post/3941d895-0626-4fcd-819d-be5d174cd57c?invite=Nhbkqw) 4. Ina: middle class golden products [https://drakula.app/post/18805afa-9da8-4dc7-afd1-90a17044f596?invite=Nhbkqw](https://drakula.app/post/18805afa-9da8-4dc7-afd1-90a17044f596?invite=Nhbkqw) 5. BeavChris: is a fly on poop [https://drakula.app/post/3941d895-0626-4fcd-819d-be5d174cd57c?invite=Nhbkqw](https://drakula.app/post/3941d895-0626-4fcd-819d-be5d174cd57c?invite=Nhbkqw) ### Watch the episode on Zora, and Mint to collect. ![](https://zora.co/api/thumbnail/8453/0xe203c94650f60c9ae3e2c373de8e1c7b0b7e1c85/3) [Collect NFT](https://zora.co/collect/base:0xe203c94650f60c9ae3e2c373de8e1c7b0b7e1c85/3?referrer=0x56fe1035663c07960d22d9F908C00170eB21489A) ### Full Conversation: [Ina](https://warpcast.com/beecurious)'s Interview for [/farcastea](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/farcastea) 1. Sponsored and lightly edited (4:53 min) [https://warpcast.com/artlu/0x5a0f3426](https://warpcast.com/artlu/0x5a0f3426) 2. Hand Delivery to FarCon Clip (1:16 min) [https://drakula.app/post/60309127-5154-4768-9a0b-c23d353c0d04](https://drakula.app/post/60309127-5154-4768-9a0b-c23d353c0d04) ### Summary Delve into the digital depths with BeavChris and BArt-Head in [The BeavChris and BArt-Head Show](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/bcbhshow), a podcast for the Farcaster middle class, where web3 isn't just a buzzword—it's a way of life. From tackling the unseen chaos of botnet spam attacks in spiritual channels, to the lighthearted mischief of launching fart actions, this episode weaves through the challenges and triumphs of moderating in the new age of online communities. With the introduction of [Farcastea](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/farcastea) by [Ina](https://warpcast.com/beecurious), a project that bridges the traditional art of Japanese tea with the cutting-edge world of cryptocurrency, the episode takes a turn towards the tangible, offering listeners a unique taste of innovation. ### Transcript **BArt-Head** GM! Hello!  **BeavChris** GM! GM! I will gently pause up. Generic rock music. Good morning, [BArt-Head](https://warpcast.com/artlu). How are you doing?  **BArt-Head** Hi, [BeavChris](https://warpcast.com/christin) welcome, everybody, to [The BeavChris and BArt-Head Show](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/bcbhshow). Streaming live on [Unlonely](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/unlonely). We're also  putting our episodes on [Base](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/base) on [Zora](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/zora), mintable episodes.  We have our clips on [Drakula](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/drakula).  We have our transcripts on [Paragraph](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/paragraph). This is all brought together by [seemore.tv](http://seemore.tv) by @cameron at [bcbhshow.com](http://bcbhshow.com). Please follow our channel at [/bcbhshow](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/bcbhshow). And our Farcaster account [@bcbhshow.eth](https://warpcast.com/bcbhshow.eth). Very excited for this episode. [BeavChris](https://warpcast.com/christin), but first, before we go into the episode, how are you feeling today? **BeavChris** Oh, gosh. I thought we renamed this segment to what trouble did we get into this week? **BArt-Head** What trouble have you gotten into, [BeavChris](https://warpcast.com/christin)?   **BeavChris** Oh my gosh. Earlier this week, I experienced my first botnet spam attack on the channel that I run,  [/spirituality](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/spirituality). **BArt-Head** And they are so clever, these bots, because the pictures are technically on point. They have AI generated pictures to do with religion or something. And then,  they hav coordinated replies.  from these other bots that are using AI to give relevant comments. So technically because I had said no norms back then, they're not actually violating anything. **BArt-Head** Maybe you started to see a lot of, casts and replies and activity.  You determined they were bots.  And you did not like them there in your channel.   **BeavChris** Mmmm because I don't even have Trending Feed enabled. So what these bots do essentially, it's drown everyone out with false signal  and the more disturbing thing is that a lot of them were actually semi hidden from me because as Warpcast filters out some casts. So as I was banning, more and more appeared, because of me playing whack-a-mole by myself. **BArt-Head** So the Recent Feed, shows a selection of the noise that's drowning things out. It actually does some part of the job for you  of not letting people drown out the conversation. But then once you hide, or ban certain casts, more popped up because  those other ones had been deemed by the algo to be less worthy to be escalated, but that caused another layer between the noise and the actual conversations that had already organically been happening in the channel.   **BeavChris** Correct. Exactly. So...  **BArt-Head** it was something new this week.  **BeavChris** Yes, it was. Or, okay, so I thought it's something new this week. But as I banned more and more, for some reason, the algorithm started unhiding the past spam from me. So turns out it's been happening for weeks. I just never saw it.   **BArt-Head** Oh, okay. Interesting. Yeah. Do you think  the reason you saw it now is because the even more spammier things that had made it through the nets, you were manually  taking them out? So even,  less spammy things, but still spammy were making it through. **BeavChris** It was all the botnet stuff. There wasn't anything that was caught in between,  so that's at least a good sign .  **BArt-Head** How did that make you feel to be playing whack a mole? **BeavChris** I was like, I don't understand how people get power trips over being a Reddit mod. I think that was my first reaction because I only felt really bad as I was like clicking the ban button.  But I think  I was really concerned that this was going to be an ongoing issue, but luckily, actually,  once I did the banning at least fingers crossed they've been gone ever since then. So  **BArt-Head** because you banned not just the cast, but the account   **BeavChris** The account, correct.  Exactly. And they got bored of me, maybe. Hopefully.  **BArt-Head** Do you think they've moved on to fresher pastures? Maybe a channel that  had not had them before, but now you have, by putting the bug spray on your space... you've sent the bugs to your neighbors. **BeavChris** I don't know. I don't know what other people have reported, the same kind of botnet or they have been here this whole time. Actually, I'm the recipient once they have sprayed, my little channel., And I'm probably the one who's super late to the host banning party actually.  **BArt-Head** Interesting. So as someone who is part of the middle class,  a small cozy channel, that you spent some, you spent money for, but it's like not a big channel.  Now, the problems that the bigger channels had are trickling down to you.  **BeavChris** Exactly.  **BArt-Head** Maybe the bigger channels have been much more tough and they're trickling down to you and they're spreading. And do you have more empathy for the mods of the bigger channel? **BeavChris** Oh, for sure. I actually know what they're talking about now. So that's new.  **BArt-Head** You know what they're talking about. Okay. **BeavChris** Yeah.  And there seems to be different types of,  spam, which we can get into later.  But I want to know what you've been up to this week too. **BArt-Head** Okay.  Okay, so I'm sorry you had that experience and  it's an interesting self observation to go through it about how  banning has affected your experience as a moderator.  On my side, last Friday was a feature drop Friday or a Farcaster Friday where something new and revolutionary drops onto our experience. Through the Warpcast team, as they're experimenting with the protocol, they first roll out features in Warpcast. They're not totally solid, but they solidify in production , in the real world. And so last Friday was cast actions.  And that's something that I think we've all loosely expected to come, but I did not think it would come on Friday. And I created one. And that's one of the really cool things about a permissionless protocol, where the owners of the protocol are also the owners of the major client, and they want people to experiment. So  put some work into helping developers, of all levels, be able to  produce pretty high quality interactions on day zero. And so I launched a cast action. It was called, The Farts Cast Action. Basically, you can install it, and on any cast that you see, you can send the caster a fart.  And,  I did think quite a lot about this interaction. The first thing I wanted to do is to fart on people. And then,  the way I built this was I forked an example that a member of Warpcast had created [horsefacts](https://warpcast.com/horsefacts.eth) is a member of Warpcast, that he created, he's created many fun games on Warpcast, and this time he created UpThumbs, where you can go to anybody who wrote something and send them a thumbs up,  and there's a leaderboard. So you can see who has received  the most thumbs up. That's an interesting piece of information. **BeavChris** Art, sorry to interrupt. I have to interrupt Art right now. The viewers are saying the stream is offline.  I'm wondering if you are able to see it because I can see the preview,  and it shows me as live, so I don't know how to fix that. **BArt-Head** Yeah, stream does appear to be offline.   **BeavChris** Okay.  I'm thankful that there are folks in the chat who are going, what the heck is going on? So I just refreshed it.  **BArt-Head** Yeah, I think we should say, this happened this morning to another podcast,  and we will be on [Zora](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/zora). We will be on [Paragraph](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/paragraph).  We will be on [Drakula](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/drakula). **BeavChris** Okay. **BArt-Head** Sorry. I'm going to type in the chat. Sorry for the difficulties. Continue and let the chatters catch up later. And that's kind of a bummer because we do enjoy interacting with them while we're live.  **BeavChris** Exactly.  And if the viewers can DC me your name, please just please DC me and I'll send you the [Zora](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/zora) link.  Thank you. Yeah. All right.  Ah, I think that's the beauty of live television. **BArt-Head** We will continue live and record and try to reward our early viewers.   **BeavChris** Exactly.  I will airdrop you the episode.   **BArt-Head** I might fart on you.  **BeavChris** Yes. Aww, thanks. Someone said that they'll be excited for the mint. Oh, thank you so much. Thank you so much.  But yeah  you have created the fart action. **BArt-Head** And there's a leaderboard. And then some people started to get farted on a lot, and they were unhappy about that, so I created a candle action, which lets you clean up your farts,  or clean up  your space.  But  it's meant to be permissionless, it's meant to be fun and public,  and  I also created a shield, which lets you  Block and reflect any farts that come your way back onto the original person. And I'm selling those shields for some tokens or some warps. And the whole concept behind this as,  alpha drop,  I'm going to start to write logs of all the farts. On chain, most likely on the [$DEGEN](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/degen) L3 chain, where it's super cheap to have a smart contract do some interactions. And I'm going to allow users to specify whether they want their farts to be recorded or not. So it's going to be, opt in to be recorded. And if you opt in to be recorded, then other people will see that you farted on them. If you don't opt in, you can still fart, and we will still keep track in an anonymous fashion. So that it does go into the stats, but you can imagine this person,  **BeavChris** I don't remember this  **BArt-Head** now because right now, nobody sees who's doing it. So when it's anonymous. **BeavChris** But I'm still on the farted on leaderboard anyway.  **BArt-Head** Oh, but if you are farted on, that's a public piece of information. **BeavChris** When I told the [poop](https://wapcast.com/~/channel/poop) people,  **BArt-Head** Sorry, one second. If you don't like that you're at the top of the leaderboard,   your choice is to go and clean it up **BeavChris** Mmhmm  **BArt-Head** You can move yourself down the leaderboard. In fact, one guy moved himself down so much he got negative and that's also, an interesting outcome.  **BeavChris** Oh.  **BArt-Head** But let's see, we're at 13 minutes in. Do you want to talk more about farts versus poop? Or should we welcome our exciting guest?  **BeavChris** Oh,  so our esteemed guest is having a Wi Fi  connectivity issue, is trying to reconnect. **BArt-Head** So let's keep going.   **BeavChris** Okay.  **BArt-Head** So that's basically the mechanics of the farts action, as well as where it's going. There's going to be an onchain component. There's going to be some payments mechanism, and there's going to be opt in and opt out and anybody who can connect the dots between this and my previous projects can see that  this is building some rails that hopefully will be useful for the whole ecosystem. But at the day 0, it's meant to be something harmless and fun.  Now,  I think. Maybe it did not appear so harmless and fun to some other people. **BeavChris** So I think the main like issue is that on the surface, it seems like you have created something very similar to pooping on people. So can you explain what the difference is when you pooped on the poop project? **BArt-Head** So  there is a project called the [poop](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/poop) project, which is meant to be a curation tool for,  for cast quality. So you can drop, the idea is you can reply to a cast with poops and by doing so,  it is meant to send a signal to the person  who was casting that somebody else, not anonymously, but somebody else does not think that lives up to the standards that are expected of the community. And there are ways to even make it softer, like we were talking about softer stools, where you can even poop on it and give, there's the space of the cast to give someone some guidance to say, hey, this would have been received better if you had said it in one way or another way. To me, the difference here is an anonymous aspect as well as an opt in and opt out aspect,  but even more importantly, the farts live at a different layer than the content.  And I think there are very specific nuances of the dynamics that happen, just do you tip in the feed,  or do you tip outside of the feed? Warps, when they get sent, they don't show up on the feed. You can send a message with a warp. But only you and the recipient ever see it. Whereas [$DEGEN](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/degen) if you tip in the feed, everybody sees it. They see that somebody has a lot of tips. Somebody receives a lot of tips. And there are leaderboards. And so  there's a different design space for social interactions. And that's what I'm  hoping to only preliminarily play with. Because I care more about the rails. I think. I don't, just up front, I have no interest in building a poop or farts curation project, but I do have interest in making this information available  to make the,  the transference of offcast actions onto a chain to be public . In a open source repo, so  my GitHub repo is open,  it's composable and permissionless. So once you write to the blockchain,  you can have people parse the logs  and say, who was a good farter? Who was a bad farter? Can I, should I up weight FIDs that are lower, et cetera, et cetera. So there are differences, and maybe they're not so obvious, but, they're choices. I'll add one more meta comment,  **BeavChris** Mmhmm.  **BArt-Head** And then we can move on, and then you can respond.  Concept to me of criticism is such that you should be willing to try to do it in the right way.  Not just throw poop, but maybe build poop in a baby way. In the same way that if you don't like something in the protocol, maybe you should, you could choose to try to be the change that you want to see. You also are totally free to say, look, This is too messed up.  **BeavChris** Mmm  **BArt-Head** Just going to rage quit, which you know, that's a common thing in crypto as well. It's the rage quit. **BeavChris** I feel like there's so many points I could debate you on this. Even as like, a side fly on the wall member of the poop community  but  **BArt-Head** You're a fly on poop.  **BeavChris** Huh? Exactly. I am too literally the fly on the poop.  And as I tell [Erica](https://warpcast.com/heavygweit), I'm like the play both sides Mac, most of the time.  But I would like to move us to more advertising topic.  Because, we have our sponsor coming up. So I'm going to bring. Yeah, so I'm super excited. And definitely, she's way more kind and smooth than we are. So let us bring [Ina](https://warpcast.com/beecurious) to the stage. Hello, welcome. **Ina** Thank you. Thank you for inviting me, [Christin](https://warpcast.com/christin) and [Artie](https://warpcast.com/artlu) both. It's a pleasure. And I have been checking your podcast as well. So it's very  innovative to be onchain and on web three. Come on, yeah! **BArt-Head** Absolutely. So welcome [Ina](https://warpcast.com/beecurious) tell us a little bit about yourself and your project. **Ina** Yes. Of course.  Thank you for giving me the time as well. It's such an honor and pleasure. I would never in my life think that I'm going to do something like this.  I worked in crypto,  and I still like, I tinker around.  I enjoy and I play, but I would never in my mind think I will found a company for tea. I have  this project, it's called [Farcastea](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/farcastea) and it came as a type of, Aha moment, I would call it because I have been living in [Japan](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/japan) now for several years, and I have been working in food industry here so I know a lot of the supply chain from the farmer to the end consumer user.  And throughout these years I got a lot of experience and meeting a lot of people and then I also worked in web3 in crypto.  And then  I thought, Wait a second, I can actually connect the dots and,  [FarCon](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/farcon) event was coming and I was a bit excited. I wanted to be part of it and why not make a tea for it?  So this is how the idea started and I'm very happy to finalize it and make it happen and honestly, Farcaster Community has been amazing. I got influenced and  motivated a lot from very good founders here. [Samantha](https://warpcast.com/samantha) is a girl that produces candles.  She's very good one. And I always chat with her. There are also very many amazing people who have been helping me throughout this process. And, I have the products here. I hope I can show them .  **BArt-Head** Absolutely! Looking forward to it.  **Ina** Yeah. This is the special edition of Sencha, it's a  variety of green tea. It's the most used in [Japan](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/japan). And it comes with a washi paper, which I'm very excited. And if you feel it is golden paper, it's very beautiful, very posh, I would say. Very luxurious.  And you can buy it by my [frame](https://warpcast.com/beecurious/0xf002e1e6) with ether. Yeah.  **BArt-Head** Amazing!  **Ina** The second product I have is a tea can and it has Sakura design and golden one. We have actually two designs. Another one features like [Japan](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/japan) for season with Mount Fuji, but unfortunately I don't have it on my hand now.  So I have only Sakura and I don't know if you guys can see it well, but yeah, it's very beautiful again with washi paper. This is produced by a hundred year company here in Tokyo. They have family. And the last but not least, my favorite, matcha. And, I didn't intend to, but all the products are like golden. And I know your podcast is like middle class issue, but it's not intended to be like gold It's just the products designed here. It's like that. This is very good matcha, by the way, is from Uji, Kyoto. It's a region  in Kyoto and they produce a very good,  ceremonial grade of matcha. I think these are my products and I really hope to see many people at [FarCon](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/farcon). I will bring them. I will travel from [Japan](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/japan) to Venice... Yeah, Venice Beach. And I will bring this. So I hope to meet many people there. And yeah, I'm excited.  **BeavChris** Yeah, we're super excited. And I feel like this is a once in a lifetime opportunity to have tea from [Japan](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/japan) hand-delivered to you at one of the best events imaginable for the Farcaster community. So I really hope everyone is taking you up on the opportunity. **Ina** Yeah, I really hope so. And it's a very good tea actually. It's not just,  I'm trying to sell it because this is really like a task project. I don't have a lot of quantity. It's really limited edition. And I use it for myself in the house. This is actually my own product.  That I also use it and it has Sencha, the same product. I don't have a lot because I use it. I don't know if you can see it, but I use the same product because I like it. I am my first, I'm the first buyer and I thought I want to bring people some good, like really good tea.  And not faking it, but really,  some good stuff. So that's basically it.  **BeavChris** Exactly. We talk about quality DAU all the time, and I feel like quality products, where you know the supply chain, is like super rare in this world. **Ina** Yes, true.  And finding organic matcha or organic tea in [Japan](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/japan), it's hard actually, almost all around the world. Because actually, we need  different pesticides and fertilizer for specific  reasons, and it's very hard. I know in one of the comments you mentioned, I really looked for organic tea, , but I tried it, very hard and I couldn't find some good one. So  this tea I'm bringing is very good. **BeavChris** Yeah, for sure. **BArt-Head** We're quite excited to see the tea as well as the [Farcastea](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/farcastea) business come about. How, just remind our viewers where can they go to purchase or learn more about the product? **Ina** Yes, so I have a Shopify account, sorry, a Shopify website. It's called farcastea dot xyz  And we also have a [channel](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/farcastea), on Warpcast, and perhaps maybe [Christin](https://warpcast.com/christin) can put in the end the links to it,  share it as well. And currently, you can buy my tea from the frame that I made with crypto. People can buy it with Shopify, but it will cost them a lot of money in terms of the exchange rate, plus the fee for credit cards. And I thought it may be faster if we do it with ether.  We are actually trying to do with USDC, but we still haven't got,  still are in the process with the perks team to make it. We don't have it, yet but we hope to do it **BArt-Head** Yeah. Very exciting. **Ina** Yes, I will bring it, hand over it to you, Art. Yeah!  **BArt-Head** Thank you, Ina, for doing this. This is a very fun thing to try. And thank you for joining us here on the show.  **Ina** Yeah, it's my pleasure. Thanks again. And let me know if anybody has questions. I'm very happy  to help anybody. Yeah. **BeavChris** Great. Thank you so much. And we'll see you around the Farcaster network.  **Ina** Yeah, sure. Have a great day then. Bye-bye  **BeavChris** Bye.  **BArt-Head** Bye- bye.  **BeavChris** Awesome. This was our first sponsor. So we were super, super excited to have on board.  **BArt-Head** We did have our own sponsors. **BeavChris** I've already moved on from that Art. I'm already moved. It's already over.  **BArt-Head** Now that we've broken the seal, the only sponsorships we will possibly consider are as high quality as [Farcastea](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/farcastea).  Or maybe slightly lower because we are middle class and we are aspirational. We very much look forward to tasting this excellent tea.  **BeavChris** Exactly. All right. So , now that  we have thanked our sponsors, we can now move on to our spicy topics. So what do you got? What do you got this week? **BArt-Head** So let me go on a little bit more about my experience launching a Farcaster Action on day zero. The cool thing was that the development was not very difficult, because the team has provided open repos  that you can fork, you can copy, they're like starter templates.  And I had played before with some frames. With [frog.fm](http://frog.fm), with  [Pinata FDK](https://pinata.cloud)[,](https://pinata.blog)  and [Frames.js](https://warpcast.com/frames),  as well as, I already had a [Neynar](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/neynar) API key.  **BeavChris** Mmhmm.  **BArt-Head** And these were some of the building blocks of this brand new action.  None of them are necessary. Everything can be done for free. But, as always in Farcaster,  if you do it for free,  you will be able to build something that's very solid and robust. If you pay a relatively low amount, so [Neynar](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/neynar) is $9 a month  **BeavChris** Mmhmm.  **BArt-Head** If you pay a relatively low amount, you will get to, hurdle some of the more technical aspects on day zero, which is quite critical if launching something on day zero, not even day or week one.  I wrote the code with [Neynar](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/neynar), I made it open source. I basically, the first commit was to just do a global search and replace for Upthumbs to Fart and it just worked. **BeavChris** That's what you've been doing this whole week. No wonder you've been quiet.  **BArt-Head** And then I spent hours and hours giggling. And I shared it with my 10 year old son and he was like so thrilled. I shared it with my wife and she was like, oh, let me see it because she's a visual person. And so I showed her and said, oh, You need a butt. **BeavChris** I see, the whole family's on it.  **BArt-Head** Middle class, baby developer issues: your loved ones tell you your design sense is no good. So I said it's a very buttoned up, corporate environment. They gave us the specific icons that we can use, they're called octicons. And   **BeavChris** I didn't know that. That's why you chose the fire one.  **BArt-Head** Yeah, that was one reason, but she said, show me the possibilities and she scrolled through for 20 minutes  to try to find something that  like tried to research. So that,  there is a peach that made it into the next version that I made. And, I just want to emphasize the actual technical lift for day zero farcaster feature drops is relatively low.  If you do small projects, then they layer on themselves. So  actions look very much like frames.  And if you've understood frames, then actions are easier to follow.  But there's nothing yet that's so complicated that you won't be able  to figure it out. And, [Pinata](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/pinata) publishes lots of tutorials where you use their software and their framework.  **BeavChris** Oh! I did not know that.  **BArt-Head** To build different things.  And they were launching so many actions on day zero.  That I was watching also. What they were doing, trying to reverse engineer the actions behind it.  So  I launched it and the way I launched was just I sent a cast as a try this. And that's one of the kind of benefits of having a developer rich social media  **BeavChris** That's not how  I  remembered it. I remember you farting on people and be like, haha, I farted on you. Check this out.  **BArt-Head** Oh, sorry.  Right after I launched. First I just said, hey, testing. **BeavChris** Oh, testing. Yeah. We were all like, what's that? **BArt-Head** Testing. Link. And then there's a fart. And some people tried that, and that's one of the benefits of having a place where people try things, as well as a sandbox to try things out that is still fairly safe. We do have our wallets connected, , I saw this morning,  a scam frame.  **BeavChris** Already  **BArt-Head** going around. However, on day 0, it's fairly safe. On day 1 week, the scammers get caught up, but generally day 0, Warpcast also rolls out the features in stages.  Right now, you can only do one  action, but they're going to roll out multi stage actions shortly. But,  let me just re emphasize that ,  it's good to be in an environment where people try things out and it's relatively safe to be there at the beginning. So I sent out testing and so people started testing and I started to get some feedback as well. And then I got so impatient, I was like, I have been laughing about this so long, why isn't anyone else laughing? And I went into some group chats. Where just the people who are in the group chats were there and said, Hey check this out. And then I was still impatient and I just started sending screenshots of me farting on people. And I think that started to get people interested.  I went to the event on Saturday and started talking to people and I, actually holding the phone. Where you say, Hi, who are you? I'm me and I just launched an action. Would you like to try it? And so, they said, how do I do that? So we would pull out our phones , I'd say click on this and I could see like , the onboarding.  **BeavChris** So you were farting on people live?  **BArt-Head** They were farting on me live, yes. and I iterated a little bit, I got feedback. And I got to see people,  either smile or not and see if they understood, what I was trying to accomplish. My takeaway is,  no, nobody really cares that you want to build a grand vision. They just want to have a little bit of dopamine, a little entertainment in the moment, and then later on there's a chance for  more interest. But  I also noted that not everybody knew what was an action. We have this oh, this freak out amongst the developers on Feature Drop Friday, but for the majority of users, eventually they'll find out that new fun things are appearing.  But they're not in a huge rush, like the developers are.   So it was really fascinating to see the real life reactions. I wanted to give a shout out to one guy that I met, Dennis, who, I introduced myself and I said I do a podcast for the Farcaster middle class. And he like did a very comedic double take looking at his phone. 17, 000 followers. Middle class? **BeavChris** Exactly.  **BArt-Head** I was like, oh, okay. So I'm middle class. And I'm never going to fall back to the lower class. I'm stable in the middle class.  **BeavChris** I don't know. I don't know about that. I don't think Dan will let you stay there. Or could he?  **BArt-Head** I'm aspirational to achieve the influencer  status.  I just need to improve my skill and I'll get there and I'm going to grind and get there,  but  not everybody is in the same part of the middle class as me, and I think I want to be  more alert  that I've been playing with Farcaster for over a year   and the layers of information and knowledge have been built over time. Whereas for someone who's new coming into it,  it may feel like  many layers. And that will go into my product design. In trying to have fewer levers to pull and tweaks and features. I immediately was thinking, okay, I have a fart, I have a candle, I have a shield, I want to have more.  **BeavChris** The most complicated paper, rock, scissors game possible. **BArt-Head** Paper rock scissors, but with like bombs,   **BeavChris** But I still don't like if,  if I was, [Erica](https://warpcast.com/heavygweit) or [Graham](https://warpcast.com/mcbain) or [Matthew](https://warpcast.com/matthew), I'm still debating okay, so the interface is a bit more layered, I can see that if you fart on someone, you don't even know this happened to you unless you look at the leaderboard. So it's a little bit less like in your face. But let's just say they just copy or fork your code and build a poop action in a way that's similar to the [bot-or-not](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/bot-or-not) action that's going around so that people can like, make verdicts about whether someone is contributing to the community or not. Isn't that essentially the same thing?   **BArt-Head** Yeah.  So first of all, I would love to come back to [bot-or-not](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/bot-or-not).  That's a quite a cool thing to highlight, but,  Yes, please fork my code.  Use what I've laid out as a skeleton,  to accelerate , anything,  please.  Submit PRs that improve  my code, and it's my code because I wrote it, but it's actually [Horsefacts](https://warpcast.com/horsefacts.eth)' code.  Because he wrote it, and I forked it from him. And one of the conditions of me making it public is that other people can fork it.   I did get very good,  shouting from the bleachers from [KMac](https://warpcast.com/kmacb.eth) saying, Hey, when I fart on someone, who knows? What are you  doing with  this  information,  shouldn't you tell the users? And I realized , that's important and it's often skipped over.  And I wanted to, I went back and I added a link to the GitHub in the frame, which I always thought should be a norm. However,  I do know very few people will click on anything that says GitHub.  **BeavChris** Mm hmm. **BArt-Head** Even developers, like if I see a link to a GitHub from a coder who is a bad coder, I will not click on it. It ruins my day. And so, I will say [horsefacts](https://warpcast.com/horsefacts.eth) is a very good coder, so as soon as he shared that, I was happy to do it.  **BeavChris** So we're starting off clean here. **BArt-Head** Yeah, it started off clean.  The farts have made it a little bit messy. But  the farts are, I think the code is readable. The commits are readable. And the idea is if someone takes it and does better with it, that's good for the ecosystem. We are not in a scarcity mindset of there can be only one poop or one fart. There is, there's a **BeavChris** Don't worry, [Erica](https://warpcast.com/heavygweit) and [Graham](https://warpcast.com/mcbain) and [Matthew](https://warpcast.com/matthew), I'm actually not satisfied with this answer at all. **BArt-Head** There is a scarcity aspect of attention, which is that, in Warpcast you can only have five actions. So at some point, the most useful ones will establish a foothold into people's bars. Nook has introduced a very cool UI element of a wheel,  which allows you to have more. And they've introduced it. It was something that was very obvious to do, because many people have  experience playing first person shooter games where you have many weapons choices  and you cycle through. A lot of these UI issues have been dealt with and addressed, but of course, even if you could have 200 weapons in a first person shooter, you only use two or three as  go tos.   So there will be an attention game and a competition and I see that.  However, like we're on day 0, day 4, day 5, and I think it's more useful for the ecosystem to have many shots on goal.  Many partial attempts at things to inspire others in public and to welcome feedback, poop, criticism, shouting from the bleachers, like all of that is useful to the extent that It still allows new value to appear in this world.  **BeavChris** What a presidential non answer. So, what about the [bot-or-not](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/bot-or-not) action? [LaGrange](https://warpcast.com/eulerlagrange.eth) made this like, joking comment that for some reason this bot or not action does not catch the hottest bot right now. Which is this lady, like use a PFP that like uses AI to reply you or something. And sometimes it crashes. So it generates gibberish.   **BArt-Head** Yeah. **BeavChris** And he was joking that if I make a botnet, I'll make a bot or not action that doesn't catch my bots. So I was wondering about that one.   **BArt-Head** Yeah. So [bot-or-not](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/bot-or-not) is an action. Where, you click on a cast, and in the background, something in the server goes through to the FID, to the user who casted it, and looks at everything that it can look at, as far as public information. The history of the cast, The followers, the interactions,  I'm not sure, but maybe it even goes through [Airstack](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/airstack) and wallets,  which could be useful or not,  and it can do anything and everything because it happens on a server in private. Nobody knows what it does.  It runs it. Definitely. It runs it through  GPT and it returns one of several categories. Good caster (not a bot). Or, a bot. Or  a caster, but mostly shills . And of course this is also day one, day zero, day four of the action.  So the developer, whose name escapes me right now, but he's iterating  and increasing and obviously the exciting part of this is that you can offload some work to AI and for me the exciting part is that  it can be optional and owned by the user, not  owned by the centralized entity. So that's the excitement and how that overlaps with [Poop](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/poop). I think there's definitely overlap,  how that overlaps with farts,  in my vision is orthogonal, but who knows? Again, we're on day three, day four of  **BeavChris** and I totally... [bot-or-not](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/bot-or-not), is one of the actions I have in the five,  I do find it really useful. So the developer, his   username is [SayAngel](https://warpcast.com/sayangel). I just want to mention that. And there's a channel for it as well.   **BArt-Head** The [/bot-or-not](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/bot-or-not) channel.  **BeavChris** Correct. It already has 146 followers.   **BArt-Head** Yeah,  one interesting thing I noted amongst many tools like this,  and this is a note to little developers, the early adopters  tend to be real people.  And then the next wave of adopters tend to be bot operators who are eager to understand algorithms, to evade it. It's really interesting. This has happened with all the tools  to catch bots.  Is that the bot operators are even more incentivized to learn your algorithm and learn how it works than the everyday Joe Blow,  who just wants to share some memes and get some tips, make some friends.  **BeavChris** Yeah, I wanna say going back to the botnets, I'm like,  people are really good at coding. So I do admire the amount of work it takes to run these things.   Alright.  So do we want to move on to another hot topic or should we wrap it up? We're at minute 50. That's usually.  **BArt-Head** Maybe we should wrap it up. Is there anything else that's really hot on your mind?   **BeavChris** Oh, gosh, I think you have really spoken a lot about the role of actions now because I think it really does empower the user to have some more information in judging the quality of a cast. So I do like how it's a little bit more democratic in that way.  And yeah, I look forward to seeing how fart evolves. **BArt-Head** There have been so many words put together that have never been put together before. **BeavChris** I can't, again, like , this is the hard part about explaining everything to my Web 2 friends.  Oh, actually, I do have one new thing.  I recently curated [Outcasters](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/outcasters), my newsletter that has a more visual side of Farcaster and I sent it to a few Web2 friends who don't know anything about this world and they are actually now interested. **BArt-Head** Amazing  **BeavChris** Yeah, which is really cool. And I see that, for example, [Paul Millerd](https://warpcast.com/pmillerd), who's actually really famous in the Web2 world,  is starting to ask what is Degen? And what is Frame? And what is Action?  I think people are starting to be interested in Farcaster, who are like, I would say , quality users. However, this is like Wild West to them, right? And the fact that we fart on people like this is like the level of humor is exactly not what they're used to. So I think there is something here where it's the tide is starting to shift where the conventional Twitter like influencer type person is starting to want to move over which I think is really good for everybody. **BArt-Head** Yeah, it's exciting and we'll see how the  different battles  line up and work out  as we scale, as we grow.  There's definitely issues that we have to resolve in the community,  specifically about bots, and maybe it's something we'll resolve. Maybe it's something we'll never resolve.  We'll just have to see. **BeavChris** Yeah.  All right. Let's wrap it up. So we want to thank again, our sponsor of this episode, [Farcastea](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/farcastea).  And hopefully again,  if you haven't already ordered tea and you're going to [FarCon](https://warpcast.com/~/channel/farcon),  you really got to hurry up because it's a limited inventory situation. So definitely,  get moving with your ETH.  **BArt-Head** FOMO!  **BeavChris** Yeah, exactly.  All right.  **BArt-Head** Thank you also to our permissionless partners. 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Bye, everybody.   **BeavChris** Bye. --- *Originally published on [The BeavChris and BArt-Head Show](https://paragraph.com/@bcbhshow/episode-3)*