# Protocols or Clients

By [hive mind](https://paragraph.com/@byhivemind) · 2024-05-07

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The relationship between protocols and clients is tricky. After FarCon, some recent thoughts from [@0xDesigner](https://twitter.com/0xDesigner) have sparked debates throughout the Farcaster and broader decentralized social communities.

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ironically leaving farcon more bearish on farcaster.  
  
the protocol wants to compete and win at the client level.  
  
clients want to win and avoid being dependent on the protocol.  
  
all roads lead to winner take all.  
  
what’s the point?

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1:06 PM • May 5, 2024

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Will Farcaster's ambition to dominate the client space with Warpcast be its downfall? Clients chase autonomy, aiming to carve out their own space. While third-party clients need users, if the premier protocol captures a large majority of these with their own client, the setup could be a zero-sum game.Still, the strategic goals for an early protocol are clear: to add value, they must excel at the client level. This push for adoption is crucial. A protocol that fails here risks obscurity, especially in something as competitive as social media. Twitter's true strength lies in its social graph - a hurdle that new platforms consistently fail to clear even if they have fun new features. On the other hand, the winner at the client level will pull in disproportionate rewards. As clients and protocols clash, some likelihoods of market monopolization increases - killing outside innovation and centralizing power in a space that values decentralization.

If a rival client gains a larger user base, the drive to dominate will grow. This could possibly bleed into competition at the protocol level. At this point, the temptation to fork the Farcaster protocol itself becomes real. As Brian Flynn [noted](https://x.com/Flynnjamm/status/1787182549456015766), “this is why decentralized networks need tokens to align incentives”. Tokens create a moat that we’ve seen protected by speculative potential.  
  
Dan Romero of Farcaster recently [offered](https://warpcast.com/dwr.eth/0x16de8c53) insights into this dynamic, advocating for product-led protocol development and emphasizing the challenge of user retention. If Farcaster does its job, there will be permissionless graphs filled with active users and wallets. Warpcast enriches this further so if the goal for a new client is to become a rival, it’ll be an uphill battle. Building a client that utilizes the protocol but introduces a _net-new_ experience is key here. [Kiosk](https://kiosk.mirror.xyz/iyIIjU14A2c50rK00-O8Ic0TR6kV8bsPxd9flWAsb_0), a new Farcaster client from the former Mirror team, is an example of this - onchain social meets onchain commerce.

While Warpcast's share of the _current_ market may be up for debate, the innovation Farcaster is bringing to the social landscape can’t be ignored. The ecosystem is still buzzing with a variety of apps, each leveraging Farcaster's protocol in unique ways. Teams that aren’t just cloning existing successes could very well be the lifeblood of Farcaster's lasting relevance.

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*Originally published on [hive mind](https://paragraph.com/@byhivemind/protocols-or-clients)*