# Podcast: DAO Decentralization Thesis & Artificial Intelligence

*Rehash S3 E6 with Diana Chen*

By [nintynick.eth 🧢](https://paragraph.com/@nicknaraghi) · 2022-10-13

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I was selected by Rehash voters to talk a bit about Hats, DAOs, and AI. It was amazing to chat with Diana! This is likely the best synthesis of my thinking to date.

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**Description:**

In this DAO-heavy episode, we sit down with nintynick, a core contributor at Hats Protocol, to discuss all things decentralization, AI, and coordination.  
  
Nick initially got into coding and finance with the goals of working in gaming, but has since pivoted whole-heartedly into the web3 space.To lay some groundwork, he tells listeners how he defines a DAO. We then dive right in by comparing DAOs with traditional companies, analyzing when a traditional company should and should not decentralize, and we flesh out the ins and outs of progressive decentralization.  
  
Nick shares his thoughts on how to successfully start and maintain a DAO, emphasizing the need for values alignment. Nick is quite bullish on DAOs and believes that by 2034 (we forced him to pick a date) DAOs will become more effective than traditional organizations.  
  
Digging deeper into the intersection of AI and tech, Nick explains agent-based modeling in AI, and we explore the automation of work, automated constrained delegation, Hats Protocol, and compare AI to human capability.

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*Originally published on [nintynick.eth 🧢](https://paragraph.com/@nicknaraghi/rehash-s3-e6)*