them as very separate but both of them

require harnessing your creative power to kind of explore what's out there and so there's

actually something kind of fundamental

in common and i like using the art to

you know get that side of my brain. going get the juices flowing and think

about try to just think outside，about try to just think outside of the

box i think it's very helpful

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