In the fable of the Blind Men and the Elephant, a group of blind men each touch a different part of an elephant — One feels the trunk and says it’s a snake, another touches the leg and thinks it’s a tree, a third man grabs the tail and claims it’s a rope, and so on.
In many ways this is our approach to the multitude of problems that society faces today.
We see a crisis of trust in media and institutions, the looming problem of AGI misalignment, job automation, social polarization, etc., and think these are all disparate problems.
But what if we’re like the blind men in the fable? We think we’re looking at separate problems when in reality many of these are different symptoms of the same underlying illness.
And what is this “illness”? The current inability of markets to value people’s contributions to society — a market failure in public goods.
In social media, we see this with web2 platforms unable to value the impact of user content on society — Instead, they opt for selling users’ attention to advertisers.
With AI, artificial intelligence companies cannot be compensated for the impact that this incredible technology has on society — Instead, they need to close down their codebase so that they can sell user subscriptions to individuals and companies.
And in news media, journalists cannot earn a living from the value their work brings to society — Instead, they have to monetize the “content” by competing in the attention economy for views, clicks and subscriptions.
In each case markets can’t value people’s contributions to society, and the alternative ways people and companies attempt to monetize their work — trying to turn public goods into consumer and commercial goods — creates perverse incentives and negative externalities.
We then look at the results of these perverse incentives and externalities (ie., polarization, crisis of trust, etc.) and try to treat the symptoms of the illness.
But merely treating the symptoms will never cure the illness. It will only lead to other (and perhaps more severe) symptoms as the illness progresses without treatment or a cure.
So now that we’ve diagnosed the illness, how do we even begin treating it?
If the problem is that markets can’t value people’s contributions to society, how can we change that?
Perhaps it’s useful to start with a quote from the late UK Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, who said: “..who is society? There is no such thing!”
Thatcher is right… though perhaps not in the way she intended.
There is no such thing as society.
That’s true.
Society is just a large group of individuals. It is merely a social construct.
So is that why markets can’t value people’s contributions to society?
Well, not exactly. You see, companies are also social constructs that are made up of individuals (workers, investors, etc.)
In fact, come to think of it, even individuals are social constructs. Each of us is comprised of trillions of cells that work independently and in coordination with each other to produce the emergent property we call the “self.” Buddhism even teaches that the “self” is in fact an illusion.
But let’s not digress into deep philosophical discussions on the nature of life, the universe and everything and get back to the question at hand: what makes “individuals” and “companies” so different from “society”?
Why is it that we have markets for consumer goods (sold to individual consumers), and we have markets for commercial goods (sold to companies), but we don’t have markets for public goods (sold to societies, or communities)?
The difference is that individuals and companies are cohesive economic entities, but societies are not.
If you have a product or service that a company values, you can call the company and sell them your product. You don’t have to chase individual employees in the company to be compensated.
In fact, if you had to chase after employees to pay you out of their pockets you’d struggle to make any money.
Because one employee would tell you: “Why should I pay for this? Your product benefits workers in a different department than mine,” and another will tell you, “Why should only employees in our department pay for this? Everyone in the company benefits from our work!”
You’d have lots of freeloading and little compensation — and more broadly, you’d have a similar market failure in commercial goods as we have in public goods.
But wait, aren’t there governments for public goods?
Sure. But governments — at least in their current form — don’t have the agility or public trust to intermediate between the public demand for goods and the people supplying those goods.
Even in a democracy, representatives only truly care about public needs for a brief time window every 2 or 4 years. What hope is there for government to act as a trusted intermediary at the scale we’re talking about here?
Will millions of individual creators call their government representatives and ask them to compensate them — at taxpayer expense — for the content they create? And even if it did, would the public have any confidence that the money was distributed based on the public interest (and not based on whatever benefits politicians)?
Such an approach is neither realistic nor desirable.
What we need then is to enable communities to form cohesive economic entities organized around the common prosperity of the community.
Such entities — whether local communities, cities, regions, states, or networks of individuals with shared identity — could serve as cohesive economic units
By forming a cohesive economic entity, each community could signal what public goods it values and compensate those who produce them.
The benefit of such an approach is that it’s additive — and therefore scalable.
There is no need to wait for millions of people to join the economic entity for it to work. Rather, you can start on a small scale and form a market for public goods. Then, more communities can form their own entities, which would grow the overall market.
Since public goods are non-rivalrous (one group using the goods doesn’t prevent another from using them), the different entities would not be competing with each other for who gets the goods.
The magnitude of demand for different goods across the various entities would, however, dictate how resources are allocated by producers.
So now we have a framework for developing a “cure” to the public goods market failure illness.
The challenge still lies in designing the mechanisms to enable economic entities to bring members together, allow them to credibly come to consensus around what is valuable to the community, and sustainably compensate those who produce those public goods.
It’s not an easy challenge — but at least we’re no longer blindly stumbling in search of a cure.
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will keep yapping about this till I'm blue in the face: this, in my view, is the biggest problem we're facing as a civilization, and almost no one is actively trying to solve it https://paragraph.com/@abundance/the-elephant-in-the-room
where are people discussing how to address the fact that social platforms are accelerating the decline of society? would love to spend more time talking to people who also care about this
cc @links feels kinda /blackflag-y
You are correct it is! Will weigh in on this when I get some time today
i’m up for this convo i am an armchair friendship/loneliness researcher and probably have too much to say on this topic and those adjacent
what are the most interesting literature you've read on the topic?
To be clear: I completely agree with your premise. We can't blame all of our society's woes on social networks, but they are illustrative of the general trends. What trends? A lot of it boils down to "everyone is in a rush". Work has become more competitive, and so people are forced to work longer hours. Cities have been suburbanized, so people are forced to commute longer. There are more expectations on individuals (ie. being informed, parenting, wealth generation), so people are forced to "have it all" or be judged. The baseline stress people experience today is higher than previous generations. The result is a burnt out population (burnout rates are skyrocketing, it's estimated 66% of people are burnt out right now). A plethora of consumer products have emerged to help people cope with this through instant dopamine hits - instant entertainment (media), instant food (delivery), instant sex (dating apps). It's profitable to feed these burnt out people short-term pleasure (that's what sells), but it's not good for our society's long-term health. So what SHOULD we do? I don't have a good answer. What CAN we do? My current feeling is that meeting up in person more often is a good start (which is the intent behind https://blackflagcollective.org/). We can't heal the world by this act alone, BUT this act is a necessary step towards that. We need to reclaim our in-person networks that cannot be manipulated by an algorithm. We need to reclaim our third places that cannot be taken from us. We need to create long-term connections which help us stay grounded and calm when our entire media landscape is urging us to be reactive and stressed. Side note: when people say, "Farcaster could be different", I used to say "It's still social media." @adrienne used to say, "Farcaster isn't social media, it's a social network." I think that only works so long as we have alternative clients which tap into the social graph and NOT the associated content.
thanks for this. didn't even know this was the purpose of blackflag - so cool couldn't agree more with everything you said
It’s tough to talk about this on the timeline - it’s not really geared for it. No place for nuance or (frankly) humanity. But IRL is much different - even people completely opposed in philosophy can find some common ground and respect. Maybe you should host an IRL meetup and post it on /blackflag ? 😉
there are too many incentives to create products/services that provide a temp fix for people (which ultimately produce dependence - since that's how you get repeat sales), and not enough incentives to create actual solutions reclaiming time/space/community is very valuable, but it's still treating the symptoms, not the disease. need to start dealing w root causes, and blockchain tech is actually a big part of the solution here, imo.. https://paragraph.com/@abundance/the-elephant-in-the-room
following to be enlightened there are some remnants of awareness in the mainstream from The Social Dilemma on Netflix a few years back, and popular books like Dopamine Nation/Stolen Focus/etc as someone who has been thinking about social media and consumer products for work, i am not optimistic that existing internet capital structures are setting us up for success. social media leverages an instinct so primal to us that time and time again if left to our own devices we have shown that we will let our products race to the bottom
existing structures almost definitely not. beyond that i'm worried about whether this is even fixable incentives in the feed-based social paradigm
i’m inclined to agree. the inherent structure of internet social networks necessitates certain behaviors. i think the solution is in having more compelling alternatives that give people the comfort to collectively opt-out. we are kind of very slowly seeing that. it is now considered a luxury in some circles to not participate in social media. people are retreating back to more intimate settings. we were aggressively trying to make the whole world fit in the glass screen in our hands, and now we are realizing maybe we just want to focus on getting along with our neighbors. but we’ve spent 20+ years building for exposure-maxxing and the UX for sub-Dunbar internet networks really hasn’t changed other than cursory facelifts
put me in, too! i think a big part of it is that we undervalue the power of sequencing in social platforms (ie. who controls the timeline algorithm). it took us a long time to realize how powerful ordering and MEV can be, and quite a while to formalize it. need to apply some of these learnings to controlling peoples' social interactions and information diets.
Hah I’ve also made this analogy before https://farcaster.xyz/stephancill/0x1dfb909e Although over time I’ve become more bearish on public feed-based social. Not sure if it’s possible to organize thousands of random thoughts and reactions from people we barely know in any way that is healthy for us to consume all day
order* not organize
Agree! Same same: https://farcaster.xyz/shazow.eth/0x8a298189
i've read a ton of literature around this topic in the last year, i think we're at a point where it's easy to see that this is the case but it's hard to see what the solution is exactly.
also interested in this 🫡 etherium foundation feels aligned but not sole purpose, as @barabazs.eth mentioned
I care about this
wrote my Master's thesis about it in 2014, happy to chat :)
No way, that’s awesome! Is it published somewhere?
It was in Polish, so I don't think so. tl;dr I did research on how does information-dense environment influence levels of understanding complex concepts. my thesis was that social media are making people think more shallowly and my research supported it it was a pretty contrarian view back then. not many papers about this subject existed, with the most famous one focusing on relationships between Facebook usage and narcissism. i started writing the thesis two years before Tristan Harris left Google and started educating the world about the problems with ad-based business models :)
Money talks. Kids / users are nothing but $$ The under tones of this have been around for a decade at least. Even in so far as tech C suite not allowing their children to use their own products.
I think about this chart a lot what do you think will happen when companies will be able to have the same level of productivity with 3 devs as they do with 300 devs now? do you think these devs, who will be 100X more productive than before, will get 100X the compensation? most likely the profits will almost all accrue to the company's shareholders this is how its been for the past 70+ years its the reality of technological progress in our economy it doesn't matter how beneficial to society the technology you develop most of the benefit doesn't go to society — it goes to those who know how to extract value from it but while they get rich (and therefore extend their influence in the economy over everyone else) you get a few crumbs (so you should also be happy, right?) this is not really criticism of wealthy people or companies. they didn't create this system it's a system that made sense before exponential tech became a thing. but now this system is hopelessly outdated for 70+ years the graph of worker compensation was mostly flat with exponential tech soon it will turn negative. and what then? are we going to keep sleepwalking into dystopia? we need to build better systems
I suspect many of us will keep on "sleepwalking into dystopia," as you put it. But at the same time, lots of us are working toward systems-level change to return more gift value to the value-creators instead of allowing the lion's share of that value to be extracted. Speaking of which... looking forward to further updates from your public goods value capture initiative!
Spot on: "it's a system that made sense before exponential tech became a thing". The extra value created by these networks effects should be owned by society as a whole, in my view. Would be a replenishing of the commons, fueled by the new technologies of abundance we now have.
💯 totally agree on this, and really the direction I'm thinking in lately; we need to develop organizing principles/mechanisms that allow communities to form economic units that can own public goods (and reward those who create such goods) wrote about it recently here: https://paragraph.com/@abundance/the-elephant-in-the-room
All the talk about the "Creator Economy" is really part of a much bigger problem in our economy.. and this problem will only get worse unless we take it seriously (and address it from first principles) https://paragraph.com/@abundance/the-elephant-in-the-room
Oh looking forward to reading this !