@danicaswanson see here for updated thoughts.
My one open question is on the creator rewards that Zora distributes and that you talked about in detail in your essay. I'm unclear on why we should force the creator to always receive a reward, even if they may not want to, vs being explicit and choosing to charge for it.
Danica Swanson
Commented 2 years ago
I still think you should talk to @jacob and use Zora for this.
I'll email you with further thoughts, instead of writing another essay here. :)
https://warpcast.com/jacob/0x2031d9
Colin
Commented 2 years ago
Sounds good, and I’m meeting him on Monday!
vrypan |--o--|
Commented 2 years ago
How will you deal with URL comments/reactions (FIP-2) when each user shares a different URL? (Maybe keep the same parent_url but use a different embed?)
Colin
Commented 2 years ago
I'm not quite sure I understand - this is completely different from Farcaster/Warpcast
vrypan |--o--|
Commented 2 years ago
I'm talking about sharing a link to farcaster. If I share the referral link, will it appear as a comment under the post, the same way it would if I shared the permalink?
Kyle McCollom
Commented 2 years ago
this is the wei
Kyle McCollom
Commented 2 years ago
how much do subscription NFTs usually cost?
Colin
Commented 2 years ago
There’s a few types:
- subscription NFTs for paid subs. Always free and no fees/gas, airdropped to user after signing up for paid sub
- subscription NFTs for free subs. Haven’t launched this yet but it’ll be free plus the same fee as the post NFTs.
Kyle McCollom
Commented 2 years ago
and paid subs are web2 payments?
Corbin Page
Commented 2 years ago
Crazy strong creator referral reward.
That attribution might be hard to track though. I'd guess a creator circles a few times before signing up.
Colin
Commented 2 years ago
Yeah, agreed.
Was planning to start with something basic then iterate, eg cookie gets set with 7d TTL upon first getting referred and landing on site.
Xen Baynham-Herd
Commented 2 years ago
Cool idea. The referrer would need a lot successful click-through-and-mints for the economics to be attractive. Most people probably don’t have enough followers to make it worthwhile. So the target user of the link would likely be an influencer - so you’re competing against other monetisation options for them.
Colin
Commented 2 years ago
Referers could also be platforms and apps, eg @daylight cc @kyle. They’d be incentivized to start showing content to their own app’s audience
Xen Baynham-Herd
Commented 2 years ago
Makes sense
vrypan |--o--|
Commented 2 years ago
I may be missing something, but if I read FIP-2 correctly, this means that FC can be used to comment and react to any URL. Does this mean I could use FC as my commenting system for a blog? If so, how come no one is working on this? https://github.com/farcasterxyz/protocol/discussions/71
Varun Srinivasan
Commented 2 years ago
yes you can!
i believe paragraph and eventcaster both use this feature today
vrypan |--o--|
Commented 2 years ago
wow! This is so big. React and comment on:
- NFTs (I see that channels are comments on specific ERC721 contracts)
- Any page on the web (blog posts, YouTube videos, etc)
Clients chould handle better these cases, like showing "This is a reaction to http://......" and allowing a user to see all reactions/casts on a URL.
vrypan |--o--|
Commented 2 years ago
Or even an IPFS CID. Or just an arbitrary string/statement (permissionless channels...)
Wow. Look how nicely this discussion appeared under the post!
Carlos Matallín
Commented 2 years ago
I’m really excited about this too, but seems it hasn’t picked up beyond channels.
Cc @dylsteck.eth
dylan
Commented 2 years ago
Agreed, and thanks for the tag Carlos!
FC as a social commenting platform is something I'm really excited about
Happy to chat about this with anyone and still trying to get a few more FIP-2 related ideas out there 🫡
vrypan |--o--|
Commented 2 years ago
- social reactions on pages ("like with fc")
- bookmarking app (all my fc-liked pages, it may be worth adding a bookmark reaction)
- blog post commenting (a fc-powered Disqus)
- smart contract commenting (for example, audits, scam alerts)
- geo-located casts about a place (a bit more complicated)
Jawa
Commented 2 years ago
Or any ETH contract!
vrypan |--o--|
Commented 2 years ago
Yes! I've noticed that channels are already comments to a specific contract. For example, a post in the memes channel sets parent_url to "chain://eip155:7777777/erc721:0x4f86113fc3e9783cf3ec9a552cbb566716a57628"
(IMHO, they should be comments on a specific NFT from the contract, and make this the "channels" contract.)
Matthew
Commented 2 years ago
yup indeed... I've seen @dylsteck.eth doing this a bunch already 👀
dylan
Commented 2 years ago
🙏
Spencer Graham 🧢
Commented 2 years ago
I suppose it could also be used as a commenting/review substrate for collaboration tools
...wow, I think this could be super huge 🤯
antimo 🎩
Commented 2 years ago
AFAIK you can do the same thing launchcaster does by using neynar.com
dylan
Commented 2 years ago
should work with any hub or WC-compliant write API, you just need to set the cast's `parent_url` to the link/smart contract you wanna comment on
Dan Romero
Commented 2 years ago
Opportunity for a paid developer API related to FIP-2: for a given URL, NFT collection or NFT, return all casts either directly replying to it *or* mentioning it via an embed.
I'd take a look at how @colin is doing this for Paragraph today.
https://paragraph.xyz/@blog/farcaster-comments
Colin
Commented 2 years ago
If anyone wants to do this, happy to chat about our implementation
Great!
This is great! Fantastic use case to boost discussions + discoverability
How about the other direction? If I post a comment on paragraph article, will it show up in Farcaster feed?
Great!
gm farcaster！
Yep, that's the beauty of Web3 and protocols. Let users own their own property rights.
This is a great integration!
This is a major integration! Maybe Lens next...?
How do I comment with my farcaster account?
You need to comment on Farcaster itself by pasting the article link into a cast.
That's cool
this is good!
that's really cool
Awesome
very cool. This is day one
that's pretty cool
https://warpcast.com/colin/0x340e69 Reworked this idea and focused moreso on referrals. Any new feedback on this is appreciated.
@danicaswanson see here for updated thoughts. My one open question is on the creator rewards that Zora distributes and that you talked about in detail in your essay. I'm unclear on why we should force the creator to always receive a reward, even if they may not want to, vs being explicit and choosing to charge for it.
I still think you should talk to @jacob and use Zora for this. I'll email you with further thoughts, instead of writing another essay here. :) https://warpcast.com/jacob/0x2031d9
Sounds good, and I’m meeting him on Monday!
How will you deal with URL comments/reactions (FIP-2) when each user shares a different URL? (Maybe keep the same parent_url but use a different embed?)
I'm not quite sure I understand - this is completely different from Farcaster/Warpcast
I'm talking about sharing a link to farcaster. If I share the referral link, will it appear as a comment under the post, the same way it would if I shared the permalink?
this is the wei
how much do subscription NFTs usually cost?
There’s a few types: - subscription NFTs for paid subs. Always free and no fees/gas, airdropped to user after signing up for paid sub - subscription NFTs for free subs. Haven’t launched this yet but it’ll be free plus the same fee as the post NFTs.
and paid subs are web2 payments?
Crazy strong creator referral reward. That attribution might be hard to track though. I'd guess a creator circles a few times before signing up.
Yeah, agreed. Was planning to start with something basic then iterate, eg cookie gets set with 7d TTL upon first getting referred and landing on site.
Cool idea. The referrer would need a lot successful click-through-and-mints for the economics to be attractive. Most people probably don’t have enough followers to make it worthwhile. So the target user of the link would likely be an influencer - so you’re competing against other monetisation options for them.
Referers could also be platforms and apps, eg @daylight cc @kyle. They’d be incentivized to start showing content to their own app’s audience
Makes sense
I may be missing something, but if I read FIP-2 correctly, this means that FC can be used to comment and react to any URL. Does this mean I could use FC as my commenting system for a blog? If so, how come no one is working on this? https://github.com/farcasterxyz/protocol/discussions/71
yes you can! i believe paragraph and eventcaster both use this feature today
wow! This is so big. React and comment on: - NFTs (I see that channels are comments on specific ERC721 contracts) - Any page on the web (blog posts, YouTube videos, etc) Clients chould handle better these cases, like showing "This is a reaction to http://......" and allowing a user to see all reactions/casts on a URL.
Or even an IPFS CID. Or just an arbitrary string/statement (permissionless channels...)
@meyanis.eth built a chrome extension for the 2nd bullet :) https://warpcast.com/yanisme/0x98860e
Yup that’s right! https://paragraph.xyz/@blog/farcaster-comments Cc @vrypan.eth
Wow. Look how nicely this discussion appeared under the post!
I’m really excited about this too, but seems it hasn’t picked up beyond channels. Cc @dylsteck.eth
Agreed, and thanks for the tag Carlos! FC as a social commenting platform is something I'm really excited about Happy to chat about this with anyone and still trying to get a few more FIP-2 related ideas out there 🫡
- social reactions on pages ("like with fc") - bookmarking app (all my fc-liked pages, it may be worth adding a bookmark reaction) - blog post commenting (a fc-powered Disqus) - smart contract commenting (for example, audits, scam alerts) - geo-located casts about a place (a bit more complicated)
Or any ETH contract!
Yes! I've noticed that channels are already comments to a specific contract. For example, a post in the memes channel sets parent_url to "chain://eip155:7777777/erc721:0x4f86113fc3e9783cf3ec9a552cbb566716a57628" (IMHO, they should be comments on a specific NFT from the contract, and make this the "channels" contract.)
yup indeed... I've seen @dylsteck.eth doing this a bunch already 👀
🙏
I suppose it could also be used as a commenting/review substrate for collaboration tools ...wow, I think this could be super huge 🤯
AFAIK you can do the same thing launchcaster does by using neynar.com
should work with any hub or WC-compliant write API, you just need to set the cast's `parent_url` to the link/smart contract you wanna comment on
Opportunity for a paid developer API related to FIP-2: for a given URL, NFT collection or NFT, return all casts either directly replying to it *or* mentioning it via an embed. I'd take a look at how @colin is doing this for Paragraph today. https://paragraph.xyz/@blog/farcaster-comments
If anyone wants to do this, happy to chat about our implementation
cc @nir & @yup