I still think "human circles for writers" will be big big big thing (or podcasters, etc.) ... and I like Farcaster's iterations towards verifications as a proxy for humanity proof - I really don't want to scan anything with anyone centrally.
the rest of essay here:
https://paragraph.com/@buildbetter/web3-wont-save-writers-paragraph-might
BrightFutureGuy 🎩↑Ⓜ️
Commented 2 days ago
BrightFutureGuy 🎩↑Ⓜ️
Commented 4 days ago
When I wrote this Paragraph and writers essay - I totally forgot that one, imho, easy way for Paragraph to create small but loved feature and draw people in could be ...
Frame that SAVES A THREAD AS AN ARTICLE and that article can then be returned to conversation in much more easier and understandable way. WDYT?
Something Typefully does (if you opt-in) when publishing threads - creates a page out of your thread. Example: https://typefully.com/ev/dad-jokes-3BadJZ9
This would allow longer and deeper conversations - when coupled with a way to form ad-hoc temporary community of people discussing it (could be fleeting channel membership on FC?). If on permanent storage, many creative options for future revival and rediscovery exist - think Sublime but for onchain writing.
Anyway that's what I missed in the essay - just putting it out here 😉
(link to essay in reply) - I'm sure thoughtful souls @danicaswanson, @metaend.eth or @trigswill have opinion 🤩
Sorry @reidtandy another rant 😇
@trigs and I often compare notes about possibilities for carrying on ongoing convos in ways that might enable deep-dive topics to be preserved and resurfaced.
I like the create-a-page-out-of-a-cast-thread idea. Even better if such pages could be resurfaced through a mini-app to invite further comments from people who might be interested but missed the thread the first time around. But I haven't thought through the details of that; it's just a nebulous idea at this point.
Reid DeRamus
Commented 4 days ago
Don't apologize — love this idea!
We've talked about how we could allow people to easily turn a long cast into a Paragraph post. Like if you're approaching the word / character limit on a cast, there could be some kind of prompt to publish as a Paragraph post.
Not sure that's feasible, so like your idea more!
Oh wow 🤩 have to check orbit! Didn’t know about it 🫶
MetaEnd🎩
Commented 6 days ago
Would be cool if someone made a search engine for this
Justin Hunter
Commented 6 days ago
Definitely possible. @iammatthias made orbz.fun which requires the same set up that you’d need to build a search engine.
BrightFutureGuy 🎩↑Ⓜ️
Commented 6 days ago
Wanted to put this one together before Easter food craziness starts - I believe Paragraph is too silent and needs to clarify what they stand for.
Thanks @reidtandy and @danicaswanson for inspiration throughout this week's convos here. Also, it's the opinion you didn't ask for @colin - but written with love for Paragraph! 😍
https://paragraph.com/@buildbetter/web3-wont-save-writers-paragraph-might
Danica Swanson
Commented 6 days ago
"You don’t write on Paragraph to grow fast. You write here to write forever. To find your people. To own your work. To publish for the long game."
Nailed it. Instant sell. That value prop is precisely what I've been hoping for ever since I first joined Paragraph. In fact I thought this was the direction they were headed at the time, and it's one of the reasons I was so excited when I first joined (Jan 2023).
Writers who publish occasionally, or at least on a slower cadence than the Substack norm, have been ignored. I'd be delighted to see Paragraph nail this market. There's potential for compounding value there.
Like many literary nerds I appreciate Stripe Press, so I was basically looking for the seeds of what might eventually become Paragraph Press -- a fully composable open publishing layer, with onchain proof of origin plus customizable monetization options only possible in crypto.
(1/2)
Danica Swanson
Commented 6 days ago
What you wrote about "human circles" (framed more like craft circles, salons, or campfires, and less like dull-sounding "forums") is on point too. The conversation around the published work can often be as important as the work itself.
Writers need places to seed and nurture creative *scenes*, including:
- affordances for preservation and re-discovery of evergreen work (quote collections, indexes, writer playlists, etc.)
- ways to build loose ties with other overlapping scenes on their own terms
We need nodes within a larger network of publishing projects: home-bases to consolidate, curate, and cross-link our work.
Outstanding work, BFG. Lots more I could say in response to your piece, but I'll stop there for now.
And thanks very much for the shout-out to my work! Might want to quote your testimonial for something I'm building... ;)
(2/2)
Danica Swanson
Commented 6 days ago
(P.S. Tried to collect your piece but I'm having wallet issues. Will have to try again later).
MetaEnd🎩
Commented 6 days ago
What a great read. I hope paragraph takes notes
BrightFutureGuy 🎩↑Ⓜ️
Commented 6 days ago
Thank you my friend 🙏
Trigs
Commented 6 days ago
Excellent points and well explained!
I agree that the provenance and ownership is truly the novel concept. The composability and BD for distribution angle really hits.
BrightFutureGuy 🎩↑Ⓜ️
Commented 5 days ago
Thank you trigs - I just hope something will resonate with paragraph team because they need to position right now 🙌 happy Easter Monday 😉
trewkat
Commented 6 days ago
Brilliant ideas - exactly the direction I'd prefer Paragraph to go. Thank you and I collected the post in appreciation! 🤩
BrightFutureGuy 🎩↑Ⓜ️
Commented 5 days ago
Thank Katrina, much appreciated 🫶
Paragraph
Commented 6 days ago
In the latest blog post, @bfg emphasizes that there is no magical monetization fix for writers in Web3—writers must create inherently valuable content to attract support. There's potential for Paragraph to evolve by focusing on unique strengths like proof-of-origin publishing.
I still think "human circles for writers" will be big big big thing (or podcasters, etc.) ... and I like Farcaster's iterations towards verifications as a proxy for humanity proof - I really don't want to scan anything with anyone centrally. the rest of essay here: https://paragraph.com/@buildbetter/web3-wont-save-writers-paragraph-might
When I wrote this Paragraph and writers essay - I totally forgot that one, imho, easy way for Paragraph to create small but loved feature and draw people in could be ... Frame that SAVES A THREAD AS AN ARTICLE and that article can then be returned to conversation in much more easier and understandable way. WDYT? Something Typefully does (if you opt-in) when publishing threads - creates a page out of your thread. Example: https://typefully.com/ev/dad-jokes-3BadJZ9 This would allow longer and deeper conversations - when coupled with a way to form ad-hoc temporary community of people discussing it (could be fleeting channel membership on FC?). If on permanent storage, many creative options for future revival and rediscovery exist - think Sublime but for onchain writing. Anyway that's what I missed in the essay - just putting it out here 😉 (link to essay in reply) - I'm sure thoughtful souls @danicaswanson, @metaend.eth or @trigswill have opinion 🤩 Sorry @reidtandy another rant 😇
Check out the rest of the essay: https://paragraph.com/@buildbetter/web3-wont-save-writers-paragraph-might
@trigs and I often compare notes about possibilities for carrying on ongoing convos in ways that might enable deep-dive topics to be preserved and resurfaced. I like the create-a-page-out-of-a-cast-thread idea. Even better if such pages could be resurfaced through a mini-app to invite further comments from people who might be interested but missed the thread the first time around. But I haven't thought through the details of that; it's just a nebulous idea at this point.
Don't apologize — love this idea! We've talked about how we could allow people to easily turn a long cast into a Paragraph post. Like if you're approaching the word / character limit on a cast, there could be some kind of prompt to publish as a Paragraph post. Not sure that's feasible, so like your idea more!
Love this, yes please!
This is my favorite part of Orbiter. All sites are onchain and discoverable. From @bfg’s latest newsletter. https://paragraph.com/@buildbetter/web3-wont-save-writers-paragraph-might
Oh wow 🤩 have to check orbit! Didn’t know about it 🫶
Would be cool if someone made a search engine for this
Definitely possible. @iammatthias made orbz.fun which requires the same set up that you’d need to build a search engine.
Wanted to put this one together before Easter food craziness starts - I believe Paragraph is too silent and needs to clarify what they stand for. Thanks @reidtandy and @danicaswanson for inspiration throughout this week's convos here. Also, it's the opinion you didn't ask for @colin - but written with love for Paragraph! 😍 https://paragraph.com/@buildbetter/web3-wont-save-writers-paragraph-might
"You don’t write on Paragraph to grow fast. You write here to write forever. To find your people. To own your work. To publish for the long game." Nailed it. Instant sell. That value prop is precisely what I've been hoping for ever since I first joined Paragraph. In fact I thought this was the direction they were headed at the time, and it's one of the reasons I was so excited when I first joined (Jan 2023). Writers who publish occasionally, or at least on a slower cadence than the Substack norm, have been ignored. I'd be delighted to see Paragraph nail this market. There's potential for compounding value there. Like many literary nerds I appreciate Stripe Press, so I was basically looking for the seeds of what might eventually become Paragraph Press -- a fully composable open publishing layer, with onchain proof of origin plus customizable monetization options only possible in crypto. (1/2)
What you wrote about "human circles" (framed more like craft circles, salons, or campfires, and less like dull-sounding "forums") is on point too. The conversation around the published work can often be as important as the work itself. Writers need places to seed and nurture creative *scenes*, including: - affordances for preservation and re-discovery of evergreen work (quote collections, indexes, writer playlists, etc.) - ways to build loose ties with other overlapping scenes on their own terms We need nodes within a larger network of publishing projects: home-bases to consolidate, curate, and cross-link our work. Outstanding work, BFG. Lots more I could say in response to your piece, but I'll stop there for now. And thanks very much for the shout-out to my work! Might want to quote your testimonial for something I'm building... ;) (2/2)
(P.S. Tried to collect your piece but I'm having wallet issues. Will have to try again later).
What a great read. I hope paragraph takes notes
Thank you my friend 🙏
Excellent points and well explained! I agree that the provenance and ownership is truly the novel concept. The composability and BD for distribution angle really hits.
Thank you trigs - I just hope something will resonate with paragraph team because they need to position right now 🙌 happy Easter Monday 😉
Brilliant ideas - exactly the direction I'd prefer Paragraph to go. Thank you and I collected the post in appreciation! 🤩
Thank Katrina, much appreciated 🫶
In the latest blog post, @bfg emphasizes that there is no magical monetization fix for writers in Web3—writers must create inherently valuable content to attract support. There's potential for Paragraph to evolve by focusing on unique strengths like proof-of-origin publishing.