Such a great chat! You can watch the video version on YouTube or Spotify or listen wherever you get your podcasts! Look forward to our next chat @db! https://youtu.be/9ffTyvJYdI8?si=iSyOy2BvkwaUiDni https://open.spotify.com/episode/3MdHC2ne6K1eEocazwO0pQ?si=vfpxpXlpRT6dZ708fbC-aQ