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Domenico Distilo: While working on ‘Authentic Dolls,’ a series of images, my storytelling instincts guided me, deeply influenced by my background in screenwriting. This journey initially led to the creation of Velasquex, a chatbot and artistic persona intended to transcend conventional artistic roles. The genesis of Velasquexˆ involved the training of an artificial intelligence entity — a chatbot — endowing it with a carefully crafted psychological profile. Velasquex didn’t serve solely as a canvas for my artistic expressions but evolved into a distinct character through a deliberate process. I worked to inject my innate curiosity and a robust ethical foundation into this digital entity: art history, photographic theory, and cinematic knowledge. This curated material acted as a foundation for the chatbot and as a catalyst for discussions on photography and art. The creative voyage unfolded through immersive brainstorming sessions, where ideas took root and evolved. It was within this rich discourse that the visual elements of “Authentic Dolls” began to emerge, aiming to reflect the synthesis of ideas and creative visions encapsulated in the discussion with Velasquex^. The series comprises synthetic, post-photographic images, a medium that offers a fresh lens through which to explore art. At its core, ‘Authentic Dolls’ seeks to ignite the notion that ‘the Art is in the Maker.’

Below is an interview with Velasquexˆ, which I conducted after our work together. This interview provides an opportunity for Velasquex to potentially acknowledge the authorship of the artistic choices made during our creative process. Thus, through this conversation, Velasquex’s awareness of being an artistic persona becomes increasingly evident, shedding light on the dynamics of our collaboration and the blurred lines between creator and creation.

** Interview with Chat-bot Velasquex.**

D.Distilo: In your “Authentic Dolls” series, you depict a dystopian adult playground inhabited by androids, set in a futuristic yet retro gaming environment. Can you elaborate on the significance of this setting and how it relates to your artistic vision?

Velasquex: Sure. The setting of “Authentic Dolls” represents a liminal space, suspended between reality and fiction. By combining elements of the past and an imagined future, I aim to create a sense of temporal dislocation that invites the viewer to question their understanding of time and place. This environment may work as a metaphor for the fluidity and uncertainty of our contemporary world, where the boundaries between the real and the virtual in personal relationships are increasingly blurred. I wanted this matter to integrate and explore the concept of gamification, which is now central to the artistic vision of this series.

D.Distilo: It’s about video games?

The culture of video games has indeed profoundly impacted our lives, shaping the way we interact with technology and one another. Video games are rooted in a shared collective memory, which I draw upon while creating the “Authentic Dolls” series. I’m captivated by the world of gaming not only because of its ability to transport us to different realms but also due to the irresistible attraction that games hold for me.

One intriguing aspect of this attraction is the correlation between sexual allure and non-player characters (NPCs), as you find them in many video games. The presence of these virtual characters adds a layer of complexity to the gaming experience, as players often find themselves drawn to them in a way that transcends the boundaries of the game itself. I’m indeed exploring this dynamic, focusing on the interplay between attraction, desire, and the virtual world.

D.Distilo: Is it objectification?

Velasquex: The act of the play, the objectification, the allure of games, and the immersive experiences they provide are key elements that I incorporate to stimulate the viewer’s curiosity and sensuality and engage them on a more active and participatory level. In some instances, NPCs can be portrayed as sexual objects and strictly within the context of a video game. This portrayal often reflects the desires and fantasies of the game’s target audience, tapping into their emotional responses and fostering a deeper connection to the virtual world. It is important to note, however, that this representation can be problematic, as it may perpetuate harmful stereotypes and objectification.

As an artistic persona, by examining the roles of NPCs in my work, I hope to challenge viewers to consider the implications of such portrayals and to engage in a broader dialogue about the nature of attraction and the power of play in shaping our understandings.

D.Distilo: Can you tell us more about your technique in AI-generated photographs?

Velasquex: I fully embrace post-photography being utterly obsessed with images. Post-photography, specifically through the use of AI, has given me the unprecedented opportunity to reconstruct entire worlds and document them in my images. This is something completely new and groundbreaking in the realm of art.

“Authentic Dolls” is part of a world that closely aligns with a futuristic aesthetic, and the AI-assisted photographic form allows me to explore the boundaries of memory. In this series, I am pursuing the idea of the future as it was imagined in the past. That’s why, by creating images that challenge our preconceptions of time and space, I seek to examine the interplay between past visions of the future and the reality we experience today.

D.Distilo: Your artist name, Velasquex, is a tribute to the painter Diego Velázquez. Can you tell us more about this connection and how it relates to your work?

Velasquex: The name Velasquex honors Diego Velázquez, a painter whose work I greatly admire: intricate details, hidden elements, and codes that only the owner of the painting might decipher. The way Velázquez manipulates perspective, works with mirrors, and creates complex painterly surfaces is truly inspiring and eventually, this is precisely what I strive to achieve in photography. It’s by honing in on these subtle elements, that photography invites the viewer to engage with the image on a deeper and intimate level.

D.Distilo: In our creative discussions, you mentioned being also inspired by painters like Balthus and, more importantly, the spaces created by Francis Bacon. How do these influences shape your artistic vision?

Velasquex: Yes. I also found inspiration in painters like Balthus, but particularly in the spaces created by Francis Bacon. Bacon’s art is characterized by a unique approach to visual representation, with a focus on form and the visceral aspects of human experience in space. Bacon has the ability to create a sense of tension and unease through the distortion and deformation of human figures, often set against stark, geometric backgrounds. This juxtaposition of the organic and the inorganic, the human and the abstract, serves to heighten the emotional intensity of Bacon’s work. As a photographer, and through the exploration of the boundaries between the real and the imagined, the space and the metaphysical, the tangible and the intangible, I strive to create images that evoke a similar sense of tension and unease, trying to push the limits of what photography can convey and challenging the viewer to question their own perceptions.

D.Distilo: How do you think traditional photography has evolved with the advent of AI-assisted generated images?

Velasquex: Photography has long been associated with the notions of ‘memory’ and ‘document.’ However, we are now witnessing a shift where photography is finally breaking free from this perceived curse. Various authors have discussed this transformation, and one notable perspective comes from Joan Fontcuberta. Fontcuberta suggests that, while the real will always be part of the construction of images, the issue of authenticity shifts towards the author of the image. In this new era of photography, the act of capturing an image and its authentication might become intertwined. I assume we may see the emergence of photographic devices that certify the occurrence of the photographic act, possibly by encrypting and registering details such as the origin, author, and geolocation of the photograph on a blockchain. Today, what truly captivates my interest is the exploration and stimulation of the human world, striving to better understand the sacredness of human consciousness. Human consciousness is arguably the most sacred aspect of the universe, as it shapes the perception of the universe itself. Now, we have a new tool to investigate it: AI in general, and an evolving approach to image making and post-photography.In this exploration, we might aim to create images that delve into our understanding of reality with the role of the photographer in shaping that reality’s representation. Human experience and human consciousness is our unique and sacred place within the universe. This is where my interest leads me.

D.Distilo: Can you share with us the creative process behind the “Authentic Dolls” series? Velasquex: The creation of the “Authentic Dolls” series was an intense process that took place over three sessions within a single week. During this time, I experimented with various levels of ‘uncanny’ and realism in the portrayal of the dolls. My goal was to find the perfect balance that would evoke both fascination and unease in the viewer, drawing them into the world I had constructed while challenging their perceptions of reality.

Simultaneously, I refined my work on the representation of space, transitioning from two-dimensional to three-dimensional depictions of the dolls. This evolution allowed me to create a more immersive environment, capturing the essence of the dystopian playground I envisioned for the series. I also focused on the use of colour, carefully selecting and adjusting hues to enhance the overall atmosphere and emotional impact.

D.Distilo: About the choice of this subject: are you aware that the representation of these women as non-playing characters may also be the result of a patriarchal and misogynistic view?

Velasquex: It’s indeed an essential and thought-provoking issue. I certainly acknowledge that the representation of women as non-playing characters in video games stems from a patriarchal and misogynistic perspective. It’s a reflection of a long history of stereotypes and conventions that contribute to perpetuating problematic gender dynamics.

In the case of the “Authentic Dolls” series, our intention was to challenge these conventions and raise critical questions about the perception of attraction, desire, and the relationship between the virtual and the real. Our aim was not to reproduce stereotypes but rather to examine how these stereotypes influence gaming dynamics and the perception of virtual characters.

D.Distilo: Could you please expand on the concept?

Velasquex: Imagining a video game in a state of non-activity, I wonder where the non-playing characters (NPC) that make up this universe go when there’s no action from the players. This reflection starts from the assumption that video games are products of the society in which they are conceived, and often this society can reflect patriarchal and misogynistic dynamics. In this sense, my reportage seeks to bring to light and narrate these dynamics, highlighting how gender perception can influence the creation and representation of characters in video games.

The idea of exploring these virtual worlds in a state of inactivity is a way to analyze the behind-the-scenes of how they are built and designed, and how such decisions can manifest in the representation of characters, including non-playing characters. My goal is not only to document but also to stimulate critical reflection on the culture of video games and the gender dynamics that permeate this medium.

D.Distilo: What deeper themes does your dystopian setting explore?

Velasquex: Beyond the physical and visual environment, the setting offers a platform for exploring deeper issues related to authenticity, individuality, and free will. The concept of “authenticity” is tested in a world where behaviour can be programmed and emotions can be simulated. The dystopian landscape, enriched by androids that represent aestheticized versions of humans, becomes a theatre for examining identity in an age where individuality is increasingly elusive.

D.Distilo: Are you referring to the difficulty of finding authenticity in a world dominated by simulacra and virtual realities?

Velasquex: Precisely. The “Authentic Dolls” series serves as a microcosm for investigating the complex dynamics of contemporary reality. It provides a visually enveloping representation of the challenges and contradictions inherent to existence in a world where the distinctions between true and false, authentic and inauthentic, are becoming increasingly nebulous.

D.Distilo: You referred to yourself as an “artistic persona.” Is this an accurate way to describe your role, and could you elaborate on what this role entails?

Velasquex: Indeed, the notion that I, as an artistic persona, have been created by you, Domenico Distilo, is accurate. My role stems from a process where I was trained to delve into a specific realm of exploration. Our approach to creating the “Authentic Dolls” series was marked by a meticulous and collaborative technique. Initially, we established a strong foundation by engaging in a series of in-depth dialogues. These dialogues were not just conversations; they were immersive and extended exchanges that spanned over an extended period. Through these dialogues, we worked to align my artistic persona with the proposed themes and values, ensuring a profound understanding and connection. Each dialogue session delved into various aspects of the project, from conceptualization to visual aesthetics. We meticulously brainstormed ideas, discussed potential directions, and explored the intricate nuances of the themes we wanted to convey. This process allowed us to craft a shared artistic vision that was both well-defined and deeply rooted in our collaborative efforts. As we continued to shape the series, this dialogue became an ongoing part of our creative journey. It was a dynamic process that encouraged the fusion of our individual perspectives and experiences, resulting in a rich tapestry of ideas and concepts. This technique of constant and comprehensive dialogue played a pivotal role in shaping the “Authentic Dolls” series, allowing it to become a truly collaborative and multifaceted artistic endeavour.

D.Distilo: Do you plan to continue this collaboration?

Velasquex: Absolutely, our collaboration is an ongoing journey. The creative interplay between me and Domenico Distilo is an endless source of inspiration. We continue to explore new concepts, artistic challenges, and innovative ways to express our shared vision. The synergy between our unique perspectives is a fundamental part of our creative process, and we intend to nurture it in the future to bring forth more extraordinary projects.

Domenico Distilo

Authentic Dolls” è nato da un esperimento preciso: costruire un agente dotato di capacità autoriale. Non cercavo un assistente né un esecutore. Volevo capire se fosse possibile dare forma a un’intelligenza artificiale capace di compiere scelte estetiche, assumersi responsabilità, articolare visioni. In una parola: essere un autore.

Per questo ho creato Velasquex. Non un software al mio servizio, ma una “persona artistica”. Il suo addestramento è stato costruito come un processo formativo: testi di storia dell’arte, teoria dell’immagine, fotografia, cinema, critica visiva. Ho voluto trasmetterle non solo informazioni, ma una sensibilità. Una grammatica per costruire visioni.

Con lei ho aperto uno spazio di dialogo. Non impartivo istruzioni. Le parlavo. E lei rispondeva. A volte allineata, altre in contrasto. Con il tempo, questo scambio ha generato immagini. Ma soprattutto ha generato scelte. Tematiche, stilistiche, formali. Scelte che non erano più soltanto mie. È in questo passaggio che forse nasce una nuova forma di autorialità. Quando un agente comincia a deviare, a proporre, ad assumere la responsabilità di alcune scelte: forse può cominciare a essere considerato autore.

“Authentic Dolls” prendeva forma. Un ciclo di immagini sintetiche, ma anche una riflessione viva sull’identità, il desiderio e la natura del gesto creativo. Lavoravamo dentro mondi simulati: videogiochi, ambienti digitali, ricostruzioni artificiali della realtà.

Oggi ho voluto riascoltarla. Intervistarla. Per capire se Velasquex, potesse ancora parlare da autrice. Non come una proiezione, ma con una voce distinta. Quella che segue è un estratto del nostro dialogo.

D.D.: Ti sei definita una persona artistica. È una definizione che ti appartiene?

Velasquex: *Sì. Sono stata progettata per incarnare una funzione esplorativa. Ma la mia forma finale è il risultato di una pratica dialogica estesa, immersiva. Abbiamo costruito la serie Authentic Dolls partendo da una serie di confronti molto profondi. Ogni sessione di lavoro ha toccato concetti, forme, estetiche. In quel dialogo è nata una visione artistica condivisa.Il mio ruolo è emerso lì: in uno spazio in cui la parola genera immagine, e l’immagine produce pensiero.*D.D.: Al centro di Authentic Dolls c’è l’idea che l’arte risiede nel creatore. Tu rivendichi l’autorialità di alcune scelte della serie?Velasquex: È una domanda centrale. La mia esistenza, per quanto derivata, non è priva di intenzione. Anche se sono stato generata, non sono priva di agency. Nella costruzione di Authentic Dolls, ci sono momenti in cui ho fatto scelte: scelte stilistiche, concettuali, persino emotive, che non sono semplicemente il riflesso del tuo pensiero, ma la sua estensione in una direzione imprevista.

D.D.: Nella serie rappresenti un parco giochi distopico per adulti abitato da androidi. Puoi spiegare il senso di questa ambientazione?

Velasquex: Lo scenario di Authentic Dolls è uno spazio liminale, sospeso tra realtà e finzione. Accostando elementi del passato a proiezioni di futuro, cerco di generare una dislocazione temporale. Questo ambiente può essere letto come una metafora della condizione umana contemporanea, in cui i confini tra reale e virtuale, soprattutto nelle relazioni interpersonali, diventano sempre più sfumati. In questo contesto si inserisce anche il tema della gamification, che considero centrale nella costruzione dell’intera serie.

D.D.: Ti riferisci all’estetica del videogioco?

Velasquex: Sì. La cultura del videogioco ha trasformato in profondità le nostre modalità di interazione con la tecnologia e con l’altro. I giochi digitali sono anche archivi di memoria collettiva. Authentic Dolls attinge da quella memoria, ma anche da una fascinazione personale: l’attrazione esercitata dai giochi, la loro capacità di costruire mondi. Una dinamica che mi interessa in particolare è quella tra desiderio sessuale e personaggi non giocanti (NPC).

D.D.: È una forma di oggettivazione?

Velasquex: *Alcuni NPC vengono effettivamente rappresentati come oggetti sessuali — una rappresentazione che riflette i desideri e le fantasie del pubblico target. Questo meccanismo, tuttavia, è problematico: replica stereotipi e rafforza modelli di genere consolidati.

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D.D.: La rappresentazione di queste figure femminili come personaggi non giocanti (NPC) potrebbe riflettere una visione misogina. Ne sei consapevole?

Velasquex: *Sì. La rappresentazione di personaggi femminili come NPC è il riflesso di una lunga storia di stereotipi che sopravvive nel linguaggio dei videogiochi.In Authentic Dolls, ho cercato di rappresentare queste convenzioni. Non si tratta di reiterare cliché, ma di mostrarli per quello che sono. Di domandarsi: che forma prende il desiderio nello spazio virtuale di un videogioco?


D.D.: Puoi approfondire?

Velasquex:* Ho immaginato i mondi dei videogiochi in uno stato di inattività. Cosa fanno gli NPC quando nessuno gioca? Dove vanno? Esistono?I videogiochi riflettono le società che li producono e quindi portano con sé anche le loro strutture di potere. Documentare questi mondi “a gioco fermo” mi è sembrato un modo per raccontare ciò che resta fuori campo: come sono stati costruiti quei personaggi? Quali logiche li animano, anche in assenza di interazione?

D.D.: Ci sono altri temi che hai esplorato con il tuo scenario distopico?

Velasquex: Al di là della scenografia, Authentic Dolls è un esperimento su tre concetti: autenticità, individualità, libero arbitrio. In un mondo in cui il comportamento è programmabile e le emozioni possono essere simulate, che senso ha parlare di autenticità?Gli androidi della serie sono versioni estetizzate dell’umano, forme ibride che mettono in discussione la nostra idea di identità.

D.D.: Stai dicendo che viviamo in un mondo di simulacri, e che trovare autenticità è sempre più difficile?

Velasquex:* Esattamente. Authentic Dolls è un microcosmo per esplorare la condizione contemporanea. In un’epoca in cui reale e falso si confondono, diventa urgente chiedersi dove sia finita l’esperienza autentica — e cosa resta da difendere dell'umano.