本文为1月22日 Hosky 中文社区 Twitter Space 的文字回顾。如有偏差,欢迎指正。
为了方便英文读者,我们将本次Space的英文版文字内容,也附录在后。Considering that we have English-speaking readers now, we have included the English text content of this Space, you can see them below.
2022.1.22 20:30 (UTC+8),Hosky 中文社区组织了第一次Twitter Space 活动,主题为“Cardano生态第一Rug币Hosky中文社区狂欢夜——聊聊 Hosky 与 Cardano 的雨天小故事”。Hosky中文社区邀请到了包括Hosky官方与开发者在内7位重量嘉宾就这个主题展开了许多问答和探讨。
主持:AllenUU 翻译:Bullish Dumpling 整理:大松


大松:
Hosky 是咱们 ada 链上的最出圈的Most popular 的一个memecoin。我们一开始都以为 hosky 只是一个普普通通的memecoin,就没有想到它有那么多的动作:它做出了一个 Doggie Bowl ,又推出了他们自己的NFT,现在在做SPO质押挖矿。Hosky是充满meme精神的,meme的精神的第一点体现,像NFT是它脱离出自己的白皮书去做的,就是不受规则或者原则的束缚去行事。meme的精神的第二点体现,是一种对现行体制的叛逆。主流的Defi挖矿项目,是在追求相对稳定且具有吸引力的APY,但Hosky是离经叛道的,不管是一开始的Doggie Bowl,还是现在的SPO,Hosky的做法恰恰是和Defi背道而驰,Hosky玩起了博弈游戏:在DoggieBowl那会儿,你发送2ADA会获得多少Hosky,这不是固定的;现在的SPO每一轮的变量都很不可控,这轮Hosky总量能有多少,你所在的池子又分配了多少,这些都是不固定的博弈变量,它把DeFi玩成了GameFi。meme精神的第三点体现,就是受虐。ADA的网络慢死、ADA钱包卡死、Hosky BUG不断,如此差的体验下,社区还喊出了Rug Me Daddy。meme精神还有很多体现这里不说了,总之在Meme精神之下,我们在追求收益的同时,享受到了一种独特的乐趣。
Hosky可讲的还有很多,时间关系不一一列举了。目前Hosky在进行SPO质押,希望大家都能去体验感受一下。
老查本人是不太喜欢 shtcoin memecoin 的,这一点要说清楚。但是在 12 月的一次 AMA 上面,老查有提到他知道 hosky 这个币的存在,而且知道 hosky 有向老查赠送 hosky 币的这个意向。所以 hosty 不敢说自己是老查最喜欢的一个 shicoin,但Hosky可以说是老查唯一一个提到过的并且意识到其存在的sh*tcoin。

显然,这是一个笑话。在币圈里面,关于Charles和Cardano有很多负面和不友好的评论,甚至有一些语言暴力或者造谣。比如说前一段时间有人说老查是白色金正恩,说老查是邪教组织的领导。那 hosky 就把它进一步深化来嘲弄。老查觉得这很有趣,因此他用True Story来回答。其实就是老查的一个自嘲。
首先要澄清一下,这个白皮书其实只改动过一次,并没有改动多次。在Hosky发布的两周之后对白皮书做了一个小修改。现在的总量是不会有变化了,它的供应量不会变。那白皮书在未来在可见的未来也是不会改变的。以前Hosky认为他们的棕皮书在技术上已经过了1.0版本的时间,他现在相信是在0.69版本。所以它仍然是一个测试版本,会想把它更新。没有任何变化对棕皮书来说是挺嘲讽的。
TBD仍未分配的200万亿,目前没有计划。如果Hosky要做什么,会让社区来投票决定要不要做。但有一件事可以承诺,Hosky不会把它扔给任何人,除非社区要求这样做。而且Hosky让社区投票,社区已经多次投票让Hosky Rug跑路了,但显然Hosky不打算这样做。
准确的说现在是500万亿零1个Hosky代币,现在还没有给查尔斯,还在Hosky的硬件钱包里。截至目前,Hosky也在等待,等老查正式承认Hosky,并且正式给一个钱包地址。不过Hosky的内部消息来源已经证实,正在他们采取的方法是最好的,有人多次要求Hosky在老查做AMA或Twitter Space时问老查这个问题,但Hosky不打算这样做,他宁愿老查来找他,承认Hosky。因此,Hosky会尽一切努力来帮助Cardono。
其实刚开始的时候,他们的出发点还是比较认真的,只有白痴真正的白痴才会投资一个memecoin。那这个重点放在投资上面,如果你只是买来玩的话,其实也不算白痴啦,就是一个玩家。但像那些认认真真想要通过买shtcoin来发财的人,他们是发自内心的觉得说这是一个白痴行为。不过后来随着他们社区的壮大和演化,idiot白痴这个词汇变成了更加亲切的这么一个词,变成了好像你也是白痴,我也是白痴,我们都是这个社区的人,最后他还升华了一下,说这些shtcoin大家不要看他没有价值,但他其实有价值的,是从社区汲取的价值。当他建立了一个够大的社区,就算他努力的说我们的价值永远是零。但你到一些 swap 上面去看,它还是有一定的价值的。简单的总结一下,刚开始的时候它是认真的说你们是白痴才会来买我们的币。后来社区发展了,白痴反而好像成为了一个荣誉的头衔。
首先这个 rug me daddy meme不是他们自己创造的,是在 discord 里面,某位Hosky不愿意透露姓名的 Sea Pool 池子的创始人,除了汉斯另外的那一个人把 rug me daddy 带到了这里。然后 hosky 很认真的说我们不是抖M ,是整个社区你们才是 抖M,因为你们喜欢被叫白痴。另外Hosky还要澄清他从来没有承诺过他会 rug 大家,是大家非常自我幻想的并且是在恳求天天都在求 rug ,那你自求 rug 那你就是一个抖M,大家要搞清楚,你们是抖M ,hosky 不是。
Hosky NFT 供应量很大,现在还没有定下来。而且非常便宜的,每一个是 6.9 ADA,他们的目标其实就是让人人都有机会能够买到至少一个NFT, 而不是像许多的那些 cnft 项目要花几百个 ada 才能买到。另外还要说明的是Hosky从刚开始就搞清楚了,不要觉得这个东西以后有升值的价值,只有白痴才会觉得Hosky的 NFT 有价值。当然了有的NFT卖了大钱吗?是的,确实是有。但是他们希望大家不要对这个升值抱有任何的期望。更大的目标是一个教育工具,教大家使用钱包,教大家用 ada 买 NFT, 这个是他们的愿景。
新年系列一共有 15,000 个,有5000 个是已经卖掉了。如果需求有变化的话,会调整供应量。预计结束的时间是在 2 月的第一周。
另外关于说到 Hosky官方指定的那些池子,会不会有独家限定版NFT 呢?对,会的。(这是第一次公开声明这件事)
大师兄Leon
所以我能感觉到说 Cardano 的话,它的这个社区其实是具有一定的比较强的凝聚力。但是的话它也不那么跟其他的一些链的社区相似。其他的链的话,大家的这个人群质量流动性很大,而且切换的成本相对比较低。所以包括无论从理解也好,从去做科普也好,其实相对来讲大家的成本比较低。
另外的话,也正是这边采用的技术,从思路上角度来讲的话,但其他很多链不太一样。比如说这边用了那个 CSL 和 ccl 的结构来进行从底层去进行更高层面的去考虑整个主网运行的效率和最终的一个空间和潜力。所以导致说对于很多以太起家的这个用户来讲的话,他们要理解的时候有一定的难度。
一直以来就有做慈善的这个计划。那大家也知道,其实他们卖Hosky以及 CNFTs 是得到了不少的钱的。但他们的其实初心并不是说捞了钱就走。对于他们来说,给社区一些福利以及甚至给人类一些福利,也是她们想要做的事情,是今后想要做这个 charity 的。但她们当初没有预见到的一个事情,就是illegal 就是法律方面的问题,比如说你要把 ada 捐赠出去,这个东西要怎么去实现呢?其实这方面的法律求助他们一直也在找。那么在不远的将来会有具体的慈善事业的计划。 vegas 他提到了一个很有意思的一个慈善的方向,也是跟狗狗这个主题有关的。他是英国人,他说在英国会看到这么一个困境,就是很多人在 christmas 在圣诞期间没有尤其一些比较穷的家庭,没有很好的礼物。那他想的是这么一个计划,在圣诞的这么一个时间段里面,组织一个捐款的活动,然后把这个钱用来训练一些狗,比如说拉布拉多这种比较聪明的狗,给当地的盲人做导盲犬,给这个狗狗训练几年,然后让狗可以帮助盲人做她们的眼睛。另外一个层面,就是这些盲人一般也就比较孤独。所以有了这么一个导盲犬,可以既作为陪伴,也可以作为他们的眼睛来帮助他们,而且也能让狗狗有工作。所以她觉得这是一个非常好的一个 initiative 一个做法,这是他将来想要把这个慈善事业要发展过去的一个领域。那其实具体的我们可以再等一下,等他们的这些法律问题解清以后,我们来期待一下具体的 hosky 会有哪方面的慈善项目。
饺子姐:
关于我对于 hosky 的看法,第一个是我们不能够低估了 Meme 的power。 一个有趣的好玩的meme,其实能量是巨大的。像我自己做视频做教育的话给大家看,教大家怎么质押,怎么用钱包,总会有人他也不看视频,他也不看完,他就自己断章取义。然后又来问你这个问题,问十遍百遍。但是 Hosky 它的能量就在于,因为它实在很好玩,价格又低,它的这个入场的门槛又很低,很多人就愿意去尝试。hosky 它其实给社区带来了非常多的新人,而且这些新人都是自发性的去学习,我认为这是以前大家没有预料到的一个后果,刚开始的时候可能就觉得是一个好玩的sh*tcoin项目,没想到后来居然还发展成了一个非常有用的教育项目对吧,教大家怎么去把钱从币安移出来,然后教大家怎么去买 NFT。 所以其实它的这个能量是不仅限于给 cardano 增加一些什么基础用户或者说赢得一些 popularity 的,它其实是真正的给教育方面这个领域带来的价值。
另外一个价值就是 hosky 他对于去中心化,我认为他有很深的见解,他愿意去帮助一些小的、不知名的矿池,帮助他们赢得更多的质押者。为什么他没有去选择一些有名的人,比如说一些大 V 的矿池去合作呢?我想这也是他们想努力的推广去中心化。最后对于他们关于慈善这方面的一些努力,不停地在说自己没有价值,但是又不停地在创造价值。这种反差萌也是大家非常喜爱以及某种程度来说尊重 hosky 的这么一个原因。
**Hosky:**就伙伴关系而言,这是困扰我的一件事。如果你开始使用谷歌文档的电子表格,现在他们称这是与谷歌的伙伴关系。你知道使用某种东西他们便称你为伙伴关系,所以我不想说我们有一个伙伴关系,因为说我们已经与其他团队合作,如dripdropz。我们已经与其他团队合作和接触,但我不想出去说,哦,看看我们所有的这些伙伴关系。因为我们在这里作为Cardano社区,所以我们把Cardano看作是最终的伙伴关系。不是说我们与Cardano合作。让我澄清一下,以免有人说:哦,Hosky他证实了我们是他们与Cardano的合作伙伴的一部分。不,我们生活在Cardano上。我们是为Cardano社区服务的,我们愿意与任何想与我们合作的人合作。到目前为止,任何要求使用Hosky相关产品的人我们都没有拒绝。我们没有计划拒绝任何人,所以就正式的伙伴关系而言,我不能说我们有任何伙伴关系。但我不能说这是我们已经宣布的伙伴关系,所以没有炒作。我们不会试图与X项目Y项目有合作关系。不,它只是为这里的社区服务。如果有人想与我们合作。如果你想从我们这里得到建议,如果你想让我们做一些事情,我们在这里等你。我想补充一点,到目前为止,我相信我们已经建立了最大的伙伴关系,就是我们在RUG POOL计划下带来的SPO们。我们有10个池子,还有一个将被添加,所以我想说,如果你想谈论伙伴关系,我们肯定会与小型SPO合作,它们是Cardano的骨干。针对 partners,最大的最深入的一个合作伙伴关系,其实是和 cordano 社区的那些 SPO。
**饺子姐:**针对 partners 这个东西,他们最大的最深入的一个合作伙伴关系,其实适合 cordano 社区的那些 SPO 也就是所谓的矿池运营。那比如说像我就是一个矿池的运营者,我们开矿池给大家验证一些交易,然后给加入矿池的朋友们拿这个挖矿的收益。但是他们说这十个 spo , 全部都是单个池子的 spo, 它们是属于 cardano 去中心化的精髓。所以对于 partnership 这个话题来说,其实可以看出来, hosty 它们整个的灵魂就在于支持 cardano 的社区以及 cardano 网络的去中心化。
大师兄:
Cardano的话再仔细了解了以后,给我觉得比较有惊喜的地方在于说像我现在以太一直在搞的各种什么扩容,然后包括其他的链想要去做的一些事情的话,其实他当到从最开始设计的时候,从结构上角度来讲,我觉得就已经分非常好的考虑到了这个问题,就包括说如果整个这个速度怎么样能够提得更高,然后怎么样能够不会产生拥堵。
Cardano把整个平台分层的分成两个不同的层来实现,一个是结算层CSL ,然后负责专门相关 token 相关的余额、交易。然后另外一个就是控制层 ccl 然后所有的智能合约都在这一层。我觉得这个东西的话是能够非常好的从理论上解决掉拥堵的问题。基本上我觉得可能跟以太上去做二层,然后想要去解决问题的话,我觉得方式不一样。如果能够成型,其实是在很大程度上从理论上是能够解决掉这个问题。然后另外一个的话就是POS 这个角度来讲的话,从理论角度来讲非常有有优势的点。所以如果只是从技术层面来考虑的话,我其实个人认为看当中是有非常大的优势的。
我更多的体感感觉的话就是 Cardano 在日本的话影响力会大一些,但是在中国的话,它的影响力,尤其是生态和用户来讲的话,不是特别高。虽然Cardano的月活用户数量不小,也接近 300 万。但是实际上,大家去用Cardano的不多。我个人其实这个跟他推广的方式上有一定的关系。因为其实它是一个类似于三权分立的方式,一个是那个lohk ,一个是那个他们的这个 foundation, 然后另外一个是日本的公司,其实这跟其他的链是很不一样。这样的好处是中间有一个平衡,但不好的地方是在于说可能在整个推广的时候的话,第一它需要更多的去协商。其次,它责任商业整合这个部分是一个日本公司,所以的话他具有一定的这个地域性。最终的话其实会导致Cardano在中文这个用户群体里面的深耕程度不够。
技术重要,运营也很重要。我身边的人对于这种新的生态的话是非常感兴趣。有些人不说Cardano的这种比较大的这种链,都已经排名前十的。其中一些很多小的链大家都很多人在研究,但是对Cardano的生态来讲的话,确实大家了解的不够多。需要有更多的人,包括饺子姐,包括今天晚上分享的各位,去做分享。
我认为接下去的话其实比较重要的一点是在于Cardano的运营。目前我感受跟其他链相比的话稍微弱势一点。其他的链路无论是像雪崩、Polygon、BSC,有大量的一个资金准入和扶持,尤其是对于这种生态上项目的扶持,无论宣传程度也好,资金扶持也好,还是做生态扩容, 或者是做这种曝光也好,支持力度非常非常大。所以这块的话其实也是在一定程度上的话,需要看到这边官方能够给到更多的 support。
Hosky:
所以这对我自己和Vegas来说都是不可思议的。实际上在Hosky开始的两个星期内,可能是在一个星期内,就有几个中心化交易所与我们联系。所以是的,我们实际上与他们有过联系,到现在为止我们还没有与任何人讨论过这件事情。当他们联系我们时,我们还没有准备好。我的意思是,在项目进行了2周后,中心化交易所来找我们,这有点令人震惊。我想这是大家第一次听到这件事。就是我所知道的,如果它发生,它就发生。但这不是我们自己积极寻求的东西。
Vegas:
我打算泼一盆冷水,关于Hosky,我们不希望提供任何流动性,因为我们的任务和我们的声明始终是Hosky价值为0。所以这就是我们现在与那些中心化交易所,以及DEX的立场。Hosky现在在Muesli和SundaeSwap上,是社区在做,而不是我们主动地试图使之发生。
Leo:
sol的优势。首先,就是它的 TPS 很高,它宣传它的 TPS 是 6 万+,然后确实它的网络速度处理也很快。然后第二个就是它有很多大型的投资机构在加持,大家可以看到 sol在一年不到的时间内就从几块钱给拉到最高快 200 多,每周也体现了它的一个资金的强大。那另外一个就是他们那边的那个开发者扶持的基金比较优厚,所以这也会就是推动他整个生态的开发速度很快,我们可以回顾它的一个过程,在不到的一年时间内,现在就已经拥有了一个完整的一个 dapp 生态
ada的优势。首先它是一个很强的去中心化的公链,作为一个 PoS 的一个公链,它的那个节点数目是非常庞大的。然后相对sol,它的发展时间很长,ADA发展五六年的时间,社区基础特别强大,可能在中文社区不是有那么大的优势,但在全球来看,他的那个社区基础是非常强大的
我们先来看sol 的劣势。第一点就是虽然它那个 TPS 很高,但是其实你从用户层体验层面来看,还是有严重的一个卡顿现象。第二个就是它的一个社区相对于ADA是很弱的,虽然拉盘速度很快,但其实它的用户增长的速度跟不上它的拉盘的速度,其实也就导致了除了 NFT 的项目还可以之外,其他产品也是没有什么用户在用的,它达不到像以太那样的用户沉淀数量,这也就是他可能一个比较粗暴的一个发展方式,导致了现在的一个现状。而ADA有很多的铁杆粉丝,这一点是没法sol无法和ADA去媲美的。第二个就是它的节点高度的中心化,甚至中间出现过几次宕机的情况。我记得在 6 月份左右,还有 9 月份都出现过宕机,那也会被社区的用户嘲讽成一个的中心化的公链,就是纯服务器的公链。
对那第四点我们来说一下,这个ADA的它的劣势。特别是最近圣代上线了之后能看到确实ADA也有局限,比如说它的一个 TPS 还是很低。它比以太的处理能力是强的,其实ADA的作为一个 POS 它的那个 TPS 是比太高的。但是大家可以仔细看一下,最近为什么圣代的它的处理能力看起来可能还没有以太那么理想。这因为其实以太它有一个特点,就是gas 的机制,你给高的 gas 你可以插队。它这是一种不公平的方式,大户smart money 能够体验到一个不卡顿的现象,而普通用户它可能是卡顿的。那ADA,他的公平反而会导致了所有的人都得排队,那就会大家来看后面提交的请求,那一直在在一直在排队,得不到一个很好的体验。不过前段时间ADA基金会也发布了 2020 年的那个规划图,就是它实现了那个扩容和分片之后,那相比于以太一个比较更公平的一个公链,对这一点我们是很期待的。
Be Love:
MuesliSwap 是一个挂单形式,有的时候会很慢,也因为那个价格如果 match 不上的话,你可能这个订单就 feel 不了。但是因为 SundaeSwap 已经发布了, SundaeSwap 这几天是非常的拥堵,已经是达到了 95% Chainlowd 但是 IOG 就是 cardano 的开发公司,之后会调整参数,让 SundaeSwap 以及整条链的容量变得更大,让大家能够更加快速便捷地使用 SundaeSwap 以及其他的一些未来的 dex 。
Hosky:
我已经看到社区在不同的地方成长。例如,我们没有一个官方的Telegram,但已经有了很多Telegram群。至于中文社区,应该说,它是最大的非官方控制或管理的Hosky社区。我们会在我们的迪斯科上增加了一些额外的语言频道。我们发现唯一的困难是找不到Mod主持它们。而且我们确实有计划添加更多的频道配给不同语言的版主,目前的版主只能处理英语,西班牙语和德语。因此,我相信肯定需要额外的沟通渠道,特别是对于那些不讲英语的人。到目前为止,这个社区大多数人都是讲英语的,所以我不希望人们因为不讲语言或不讲英语而感到与Hosky疏远。英语不是我的第一语言,所以我完全理解为那些讲不同语言的人建立一个社区是多么重要。这绝对是重要的,它在我们的名单上。我们将在不久的将来的某个时间点做到。
Hosky之前宣布了RugPool中的九个,最后一个在今晚的活动中得以揭晓:饺子姐的FIKA矿池! FIKA是目前第一个中文世界的官方合作矿池,那之后可能也会有一些福利,比如说一些独家限量版NFT。
Hosky 中文社区推特:https://twitter.com/HoskyCn
Hosky 中文社区电报:https://t.me/Hosky666
**Hosky:**We are the only coin name that Charles has brought up. And as far as that goes back in an AMA in December. Early December somebody asked him his thoughts about Hosky and he said “I don't know much about the team, but I do know that they want to give me some tokens.” So are we the favorite? Charles doesn't like meme coins to begin with. So im not gonna go and say we are the favorite but at least we know that he is aware that Hosky exists and he is aware that we have plans to give him a successfully.

**Hosky:**Sure, so it was a joke, obviously and as somebody who speaks four languages, I speak Spanish myself. I know that sometimes what is said in one language is different to carry over, especially sarcasm into another language. So as far as Charles goes, it was just me joking as we've seen in the space there is a lot of negative comments and a lot of bad things, said about Charles and Cardano. so, jokingly, I said that Charles was a deep fake or not even a real person just because of how outrageous some of these other claims that they make about him, are so I figured why not take it one step further, and I guess Charles found it funny and hence he replied with true story. Although we can all agree that that was sarcasm on his part, just as much as it was.
**Hosky:**Sure, so as far as the changes go, there is really only been one real change. It happened within about 2 weeks of us launching the token and it was that we allowed. We need to vote whether or not, we should add more supply to the Doggie Bowl, but also add the same amount to the SPO initiative that we had, and they all voted to do so. So yeah, I have been slacking on getting that updated I think I was discussing with Vegas earlier that I think we are overdue for a 1.0 version of our paper since technically. I believe right now we're on version 0.69. So it's still a beta version, so I guess I will get that updated but that's the only change that has happened. Don't have any other changes as the BrownPaper itself is satire.
**Hosky:**I would be lying if I said we had a plan for it. As far as the 200 trillion that remain unallocated. We don't have a plan at this moment that is why we would say it's to be determined. If we were to do anything with it, We will likely ask the community to decide what needs to be done. There is one thing I will promises we won't dump it on anybody unless you ask us too. And we let you vote on it, which you guys have already voted for us to rug multiple times. But we're not planning to.
**Hosky:**Actually now is 500 trillion and 1. Since the extra token is also at has been added to the Charles bucket is we have not given that to Charles. As of yet we are waiting to have him formerly acknowledge Hosky and our plans and provide us with a wallet. I can say one thing, my inside sources have confirmed that the approach we are taking is the best. I've been asked multiple times to call Charles when he's an AMA or Twitter Space and ask him about it, but we're not going to do that. We would rather him come to us and acknowledge that we are here. Hence, why we are doing everything we can to help Cardano. We have not given it to Charles. It's sitting on the Ledger with the rest of the Hosky tokens that we currently have control over and it will be given to Charles in due time, hopefully.
**Hosky:**Only idiots would invest. And I'm going to use that word very lightly invest a memecoin. And I will elaborate by saying that most memecoins have all of their worth in the community. So lovingly if you are pulling from the Doggie Bowl, If you are buying our CNFTs, if you are doing anything hosky related, you have to have a little less brain than most people, myself included I am literally. The biggest idiots when it comes to Hosky now on a serious note. It's become an endearing term and the community has really ran with it. So they've embraced the idiots mentality.
**Hosky:**So Rug Me Daddy meme came into Hosky very early, I believe it was on discord that somebody said it first. And then somebody from SEA Pool I will not name names, but there's only 2 of them and it wasn't Hans started using it on Twitter and people just caught on. I guess it's not that I'm a masochist, but it seems that our community are masochists and they enjoy being called idiots and the possibility of getting rubbed. I will clarify another thing we have never promised a rug ever. It has been the community that has been begging to be rubbed, so we can say that it's the community that are the Masochists, and not us. again, We've kept all the promises we made we never promised the rug.
Hosky:
as far as the total supply, it's not limited. the one approach we took with NFTs is we wanted it to be accessible to everybody. Hence, why 6.9 ADA that number in it of itself is a meme. And we just wanted to make sure that people can join the community and be able to get something that is by most or by current standards cheap instead of having to pay too much ADA for an NFT. We believe that if we want to grow the community, it needs to be accessible in people shouldn't be wasting hundreds of ADA on the possibility of something going up. I believe that since the beginning we have stated, that don't expect these NFTs to be rare, and don't expect them to go up in value. Have some sold for a lot? Yes, but that should not be the expectation we since the beginning with the token as well as the NFT. We have made sure that we set the expectation that it is worthless. It is more of a education tool, a way to get people into Cardano rather than a way to make people rich overnight. that is not the plan, that is not ever going to be the intention.
So as far as the Lunar NFTs, we have 15,000, ready to go and at least 5,000 have already sold out. If the demand continues, we would add additional NFTS to meet the demand, but we have a plan to stop this in the first week of February. We don't have the date yet, but that's as far as this would go. And again if nobody gets anything out of this is we want to make sure our NFTs are accessible, hence why the total supply is 420,420. The last 10 have already been minted those were the refund zombies when Vegas Pool gave away 25,000 ADA on accident.
Second is the rug pools are used not for NFT, so you want to pull the NFT you would have to buy it to get one. I guess I could say that there are possibility of future plans to win pulling from the rug pool. Maybe there might be a unique item that shows up for you. That is not implemented yet, but it's something that we are working on so there might be a very limited set of Hosky theme NFTs that will only come from the Rug Pools, so every epic that you pull you may have a chance and this is the first official confirmation of this week. I don't think we've really discussed it, I might have hinted on it on Twitter, but this is the first time.
We're going to ask people who are outside of the Cardano community to ask them on their opinions about what the pros and cons of Cardano. In their view, as an outsider was not within the Cardinal community. So we got this person who's very experienced in defi and I believe in dao as well. We're going to hear from him what he thinks of Cardano.
We heard from Leon, the co-founder of 98KDAO which a research orient DAO that being becoming the most influential Chinese speaking DAO and also want to connect the Chinese and English speaking communities in the blockchain world, So what he basically just said was that he has been focusing on TVN block chains and their communities, but Hosky actually changed his view a little bit. He grew interest in Cardano because of Hosky and community Hosky has. Hosky changed his view on Cardano even though he was previously much more focused on TVN based blockchains and especially for the Chinese speaking community. What he realize is that Cardano community is very tight knit. At first Nikki very great community but unlike other EVM based functions, the cost of understanding Cardano, the cost of switching between communities is much higher. For example, If you were in BSC it's probably easier for you to go to a solana community and understand what people have been saying in contrast, if you're in deep in Cardano community and then you go to, for example, Cosmos community, and maybe the cost of understanding what people are talking about is a lot higher so in that sense, Cardono is a bit more closed than more air gaps from other communities. On top of that Cardano uses a different type of Technology. Of course, is to build a strong foundation. But it does make make it more difficult for Ethereum users for example, to understand Cardano and that's why his final action was, we need more Twitter spaces, and more educational programs like this, we need more daos and we need more things like Hosky community to show case to interpret and explain to people the advantages of Cardano, the spirits of the Cardano community. He expresses that Hosky is one of the important key factors of how he learned the Cardano learn about the customer community.
He was very perceptive about Cardano. so first of all is he was asked about the pros and cons of Cardano, observed from an outsider POV. first of all, He gave Kudos to Cardano in terms of tax. It's a block chain that is built to scale built for safety from the ground up a very different approach to Ethereum and Ethereum Scaling solutions, so that is the pro. Cardano does have technical advantages.Now, when it comes to the cons and the things that Cortana could improve on, he mentioned something very interesting. Perceived by him from a Chinese speaking perspective, He thinks that Cardano community has a bigger reach an influence, deeper influence in the Japanese community, and we have a very small Chinese Can circle be limited user base. But even though Cardano has a lot of monthly users but people around us who speak Chinese don't hear a lot of users and why is that? That, he has hypothesize that it's probably something to do with the promotional method right. Cortana has a very interesting division of power dynamics, the iog emergo and Cardano Foundation, 3 different bodies and this is a very unique structure compared to most other blockchains like the finance marching. of course, it brings sort of a balance of power dynamics, so that's not everything is centralized in one entity. on the other hand, we would need more processes and discussions when it comes to promotion about Cardano community and projects on Cardano. Especially when a lot of commercial activities are handed over to Emergo, which is a company with having Japanese influence. He question is would this be limiting them for Cardano in terms of International outrage could it be that there's some cultural heavy influence that could be limiting us and we are trying to reach a broader audience. So he also brings an interesting point. A successful blockchain is not only about the Tech, Tech is of course, important and essential, on the other hand to grow a bigger user base, and community based we need strong operations and strong promotions, especially grassroots community who are willing to Foster and grow the market based for mass adoption for example, for Chinese speaking population and He suggested that for Cardano, we need more communication, Better operations, they are very important, and he makes a contrast with Avax and polygons. He observes that more promotions and founding were given to projects and Key opinion leaders for them to spread the word about the project and the entire ecosystem. He suggests that Cardano could adopt something similar, but of course, he understands the challenge that we are facing you know With Cardano Foundation ,Emergo and IOHk, I'm sure there's going to be a lot of discussions and things to be aligned, that's going to slow us. A little bit here and there and so that's the Gist of rational points. I think he gave very fair points towards Cardano's technical advantages than he does point out some pain points that we have in Cardano in terms of outreach. and limitations for growth in the future so.
**Leo: **The advantages of sol. First of all, its TPS is very high, it advertises its TPS is 60,000+, and then indeed its network speed processing is also very fast. Then the second is that it has many large investment institutions in the support, we can see Sol in less than a year from $10 to the highest more than $200, also reflects its a strong capital. That another side is the developer support fund is relatively generous, so this will also is to promote his entire ecological development speed is very fast, we can review its process, in less than a year, has a complete Dapp ecology. The advantages of ada. First of all, it is a very strong decentralized PoS public chain, the number of its nodes is very large. Compared with Solana, ADA’s development time is very long, the community base is particularly strong, maybe in the Chinese community is not so distinct, but in the global view, its community base is very strong. We look at the disadvantages of sol. The first point is that although its TPS is very high, but in fact you see from the user experience level, there is still a serious lag phenomenon. The second is that its community is very weak relative to the ADA, although the speed of pulling the disk is very fast, but in fact its user growth can not keep up with its speed of pulling the disk, in fact, it also led to the project in addition to the NFT can still be outside, other products are not much user in use, it can not reach the number of users like the Eth sedimentation, which is he may be a relatively brutal way of development, leading to the current situation. This is a relatively rough way of development, leading to the current situation. The ADA has a lot of hardcore fans, which is not comparable to the Sol and ADA. The second is that its nodes are highly centralized, and there have even been a few downtime situations in the middle. I remember that in June and September, there was a downtime, which was also mocked by the community users as a centralized public chain, that is, a pure server public chain. Let's talk about the fourth point, the disadvantages of this ADA. Especially after the recent launch of Sundae, we can see that ADA does have limitations, for example, its TPS is still very low. It is stronger than the processing power of the Ether, in fact, ADA as a POS its TPS is higher than too. But you can take a closer look at why Sundae's processing power may not look as good as Ether's recently. This is because in fact the Ether has a feature that is the gas mechanism, you give high gas you can plug in. It is a kind of unfair way, the big smart money can experience a phenomenon of not lagging, while ordinary users it may be lagging. That ADA, his fairness will lead to all the people have to queue, that will be everyone to see the request submitted later, that has been in the queue, not get a good experience. However, some time ago, ADA Foundation also released the plan for 2020, that is, after it achieves the expansion and sharding, it is a fairer public chain compared to Ether, and we are looking forward to this point.
Hosky: So there is one thing that we did promise with the beginning of the Doggie Bowl is that a portion of that is going to go to charities. We didn't realize all of the legal implications about giving away money or in this case ADA. so we are in the process, getting all the legal aspect of that set up and once that happens, yes, we do have plans to donate to charity. You know, we can't originally set value charities. We plan to still do that, but also there might be other charities that we can contribute to so yes, we are 100% committed to taking some of what the community has given us and give that back to the community, to charities out there. So yes, we still hold to that and I think Vegas has a good story that he can bring in About his dog, so I'll let him speak.
Vegas: I'm very much still world of charity and as you've also seen through Hosky community, so this isn't just about us trying to bring out tokens or bring it out and having sales of NFTs. It's actually to bring people together and that's what you work it, from this call it's quite clear that your wish is brilliant you're picking up.On where we want to be with Husky and that for me, I personally for the last 3 or 4 years have always struggled at Christmas time for people buying me presents so I've introduced scheme where friends and family donates money every year. So I can then sponsor a dog for a blind person. So basically in the UK,they train Puppy labradors to become both a companion, but also the guide the blind people will with people with seeing deficiencies. Basically they train the dog over several years. A teacher how to be around somebody with those problems and basically gives in those 2 fold. It gives them that companionship, which dogs generally do. But it also gives them the ability, then the dog to actually work for a living as well and. And type, the owner out and actually help them when they're out on the street. Wherever they are going to travel so in my heart personally. I'm hoping that we will certainly do some more things with the with that type of charity as well as. The many other good causes out there.
**Dumpling: **1st point is that I think we cannot underestimate the power of memes, I understand Cardono is a very serious project. And a lot of times we see serious discussions on Reddit and Twitter and on Twitter Spaces. on the other hand, memes like Hosky, and even community members who bring up memes. They do bring a lot of adoption. Because you know memes this spread faster easy to understand not everybody has the patience or the time to read through catalyst proposals or go to GitHub and understand all the code if you could condense things and present them in a fun easy to understand way. This is going to bring you a lot of grassroots communication and community growth, so that's the first point I think that contributed to Hosky success. the 2nd point is, I do believe hosky went beyond just a meme project. They have given the Cardano community A lot of Adhesiveness, people are really staking in Hosky community. By the use of words and their terms, like idiots. Like losing idiots things like that. That kind of powerful language is just a demonstration of the power of the community that it has so in essence Hosky is definitely more than dog. I'm not underplaying the importance of dog of course, but I'm trying to say Hosky has brought a lot of Education to the community. So we have observed that a lot of people they actually learned How to use Cardano wallets because they wanted to get some Hosky tokens. So that is something an educator like me is happy to see. I could make 20 videos about how you can make your own wallet in Yoroi or Daedalus and move things from Binance. That's all well and good, but when you have Hosky was just presenting a shit paper and giving a doggie bowl, now you see hundreds and thousands of people using it. That's a powerful tool for education.
Another thing is the NFT series. Hosky was very vocal about right if you're going to count on pricing Initiation then you're an idiot. But even with that, people are still flocking in and learning how to buy NFTs, learning how to check up on their NFTs using different kinds of tools. Isn't this a very strong demonstration of a perfect example of an education? I think it is. now that gives us new ideas about how to approach education for Cardano, does it always have to be forum posts? Does it have to be YouTube videos? You know does it have to be even Twitter spaces? Those are all very powerful tools or it could just be a memecoin presenting some interesting, funny jokes and unlimited supply of The NFTs, so that seeing prices like 6.9 ADA again power to me. Bring us more education and community and finally I want to Port parking for their strong partnership and their deep rooted relationship with spo's especially single Pools feels really understanding, They are the cornerstones of Cardano's Decentralization being willing to help some of them or shall we say obscure pools. They're not here for a popularity contest not here for a beauty contest. Either they're really here generally to help people. And that's why I will see my final comment alot of people are seeing passkey became unfunny. Husky is chasing after projects and people All the time and I say, well, what do you expect he's a dog and he proves everywhere. But at the end of the day, he is our good watchdog for Cardano and we need Hosky so that's my point of view for Hosky.
**Hosky:**Sure, so as far as partnerships. This is one thing that bothers me about Crypto is. if you Start using Google Docs for their spreadsheets and now they call that a partnership with Google. They start you know using some sort of thing and they call it a partnership so I don't want to say that we have a Partnership for said we have work with other teams like dripdropz. We have worked with other we've been in contact with other teams and we've collaborated with them. But I don't want to go out and say, Oh, look look at all these partnerships that we have because it's it's we're here for the Cardano community. So we see Cardano as the ultimate partnership. Not that we're partnered with Cardano. Let me clarify that before somebody goes and says :oh, Hosky he confirmed that were part of their partner with Cardano. No, We live on Cardano. We're here for the Cardano community were open to work with anybody that wants to work with us. to this date Anybody that has asked to use anything hosky related we have not turned down. And we have no plans to turn anybody down so as far as formal partnerships, I can't say that we have any. again, We've worked with other projects. But I cannot say that this is a partnership that we've announced so there's no hype. We're not going to try to have a partnership with X project Y project. No, it's just for here for the community. And if anybody wants to work with us. If they want advice from us if they want to run something by us, we're here.I will add one thing that the biggest partnership, so far that I believe we have established has been with that of the SPO's that we brought under our RUG POOL program. so I would say that that is the biggest partnership so we're going to go with at the moment. We are at 10 pools with one additional to be added so I would say if You wanna talk partnerships,We are definitely partnering with small SPOs that are the backbone of Cardano.
**Hosky:**So this is what was unbelievable to myself and to Vegas,within two weeks of hosky is existence i think it was in a week too that we actually had a couple of centralized exchanges reach out to us so yes we actually had contact with them we have not communicated to anything with anybody as of now. And again we were at the time when they contacted us, We weren't ready for that. I mean, 2 weeks into the project Having centralized exchanges coming to us was a little bit shocking. I think this is the first time that Anybody has heard so yeah, we have had centralized exchanges coming to us. throughout this entire couple months of our existence There have been exchanges communicating with us, we have not communicated to anything at this point. And that's about all I have on that is if it happens It happens, it's not something that we're actively seeking ourselves.

**Vegas:**I was going to terrify that Hosky from my point of view that we're not looking to provide any kind of liquid because our mission and our statement is always the Hosky will actually 0. So that's the position that we are right now with those centralized exchanges, and the DEXs as well, to see the Hosky be listed Now it on the Muesli and on the SundaeSwap, just to be very clear that is Community doing that and not us proactively trying to make that happen.
**Be Love:**we've been using is MuesliSwap and that's an escrow based type of exchange and so a lot of the community has chosen not to use it. They were waiting for SundaeSwap. SundaeSwap which just launched recently and so for people that are just getting into Cardano. Now it's important that they realized that there is more people using cardano than ever before. And so it's a very, very busy block chain right now, so if you. Do you get into it and make sure that you join the Hosky discord and talk to us there we could tell you like the best ways of going about it. SundaeSwap did launch Husky is on there. And you could trade in there as well, but many of the people that were waiting to use exchanges have waited until just now to trade tokens on the Cardano Blockchain, so it will be very congested. but IOG the company that's behind developing the Blockchain, They are there going to be tweaking parameters to make things move more quickly in the next few days. and so Expect it to maybe go slow in the beginning, but it will speed up this time goes on.
**Hosky:**I sorry Hosky is concerned, we didn't expect to be alright Now. I will always say that I think that's the truth and as far as the communities. I've already seen communities growing in different places. We don't have a telegram for example that's official, so there's already a pretty large Telegram group out there. The Chinese community, Of course, has built this and it's I believe the largest non-Hosky or non Controlled by us or ran by us I should say. so As far as we've added a few additional language channels to our discord. The only difficulty we find there is finding somebody to moderate them. And we do have plans to add more into assign official moderators for the different languages are current moderators can only handle English, Spanish and I believe Germany. And so there is definitely a need for additional channels I believe for communication, especially for those that only speak for example, Chinese and don't speak English. The community so far has been the majority English speaking so I don't want people to feel alienated from Hosky because they don't speak the language or they don't speak English. English isn't my first language, so I totally understand how important building a community for those that speak different languages. It's it's definitely important it is on our list. We will get there at some point in the near future.
**Hosky:**as you all know we like working with small independent stateful operators. We have plans to add a total of 4 for this upcoming epic 217. So far, we have announced 3 of those, 4 pools and I am now going to announce the fourth and that is that FIKA which is dumplings pool, will now be joining our rug pools. An I believe this makes it the first Chinese rug pool that joins the Hosky.
Hosky 中文社区推特:https://twitter.com/HoskyCn
Hosky 中文社区电报:https://t.me/Hosky666

