In his keynote speech "human nature, culture and system" on July 18, the international and American research expert expressed his views on China's current corruption and institutional problems: when power is not supervised, officials are bound to be corrupt, and ruling by virtue is no longer applicable to modern China. As for China's overseas image, she also said bluntly: "China's promotion of soft power, as long as there are a few 'suicides' and how many Confucius Institutes are opened abroad, it will not save China's face!" In his 100 minute speech, Zi zhongyun repeatedly mentioned the importance of "Enlightenment" to today's China. In her opinion, "Enlightenment" is to resume thinking with one's own mind according to common sense and logic, because in the past quite a long time, Chinese people have lost the ability of independent thinking to varying degrees. In today's China, the most painful problem for her is education. "Among all the problems in China, the problem of education is the most serious". In Zi zhongyun's view, China's current education, starting from kindergartens, teaches extreme utilitarianism that completely stifles creativity and imagination. If China's education does not change, China's ethnic groups will degenerate. Zi zhongyun told reporters: "this process is like degenerated potatoes". As long as you give me space, I dare to say what I want to say Reporter: in recent years, you have spoken more and more on public affairs. After the publication of the anthology, it has aroused great repercussions. Some people call you a public intellectual. Zi zhongyun: I don't like this hat. I've been expressing my opinions all the time, but recently I've suddenly received more attention. I'm also surprised. Of course, this is a good thing. I think this is the progress of society. Maybe it's too good to say so, but I do think so. Therefore, I don't want to know what kind of identity I have, what kind of faction or faction I belong to, and which faction I don't belong to. I just want to maintain my independence. Reporter: in the preface of your optional collection, it is said that from the time sequence of the article, the later it comes, the heavier the mood it expresses. Is reality increasingly disappointing? Zi zhongyun: that's what I mean. In the 1980s, we had high expectations for reform and opening up and were optimistic that we would follow such a path. Later, we found that many things were not satisfactory, and the problems became more and more serious, so my heart became more and more heavy. This is the truth. Then, what to do after disappointment? I don't know what to do. I can only say that if I want to express any opinions, I can't hold it, I will come out and speak. If anyone is affected by my words, it is definitely a good influence, not a bad influence. I believe my views are conducive to social progress. Reporter: after listening to your speech yesterday, some people think you are more open to speak in Hong Kong because the speech environment in Hong Kong is relatively free? Zi zhongyun: it's not because I'm in Hong Kong that I can speak freely. I have spoken these words on many occasions and in many mainland universities. In my speech yesterday, the questions asked by the audience were not too sharp. My previous speech was much sharper. Now as long as you give me space, I dare to say what I want to say. To break the educational deadlock, private schools should be allowed Reporter: this year, the writers' Publishing House invited 100 writers to copy Mao Zedong's speech at the Yan'an Literature and Art Symposium. Some criticized the cynicism of intellectuals, while others said that the speech still has strong practical significance for today's China. What do you think? Zi zhongyun: after the speech of this symposium came out, many scholars were persecuted. Today, we should take it out of context to commemorate this speech and say that art should serve the people, which is applicable at any time. However, literature and art serves politics and a very narrow politics, which itself is a kind of retrogression. (www.lz13. CN) I don't want to comment on those writers who accept the invitation to copy. Everyone has their own ideas. I'm not familiar with most of them, but as far as I know, many people choose to refuse after receiving the 1000 yuan and a letter, which shows that they can't refuse. Therefore, I think that their copying speech is neither coercion nor inducement, Because these writers don't care about the 1000 yuan, they can only say that they have their own ideas. Reporter: you have always been very concerned about China's education. You also said that education in the mainland is a bad education that destroys people. How do you think China's education should go without changing the existing system? Zi zhongyun: I am most worried about education. Education is to cultivate people in a hundred years. If China's education does not change, the race will degenerate, just like potatoes. Because the students you educate will be teachers in another ten years, and then he will use this method to educate the next generation. If this generation goes on, education is constantly destroying people. Parents like to say "don't lose at the starting line". In fact, Chinese children have lost at the starting line. China's current education, starting from kindergartens, teaches extreme utilitarianism that completely stifles creativity and imagination. Education has no other purpose. It just goes to higher education, and the polarization of schools is particularly obvious. If you can't get into the so-called key points, other schools will become sheep herding schools. Why many parents and students choose universities in Hong Kong is because education in Hong Kong is at least normal. Universities in mainland China have been destroyed by the subject system. This completely destroys the most essential thing of education. Of course, there are still a few teachers adhering to the concept, but there are fewer and fewer such people, because this system forces you to do so. For example, the Ministry of education has come to evaluate the 211 and 985 projects. If you can't get in, it will have a great impact on the funds and status of the school, so we use all kinds of abnormal means to drill in. What do you say? I think the only way is to let go of ideas and allow private schools. If the policy can be liberalized, I think China's education will be much better and break the current deadlock. Now mainland China is exporting corruption Reporter: now that the integration of the mainland and Hong Kong is getting closer and closer, what are your expectations for Hong Kong's role in China? Zi zhongyun: the rule of law in Hong Kong, especially the clean government in Hong Kong, has always been valued by everyone, so I think Hong Kong people should be vigilant, because it is very difficult to maintain clean government and it is very easy to corruption. Now mainland China is exporting corruption. Not only Hong Kong, but also many multinational companies feel very troublesome, because the United States has the overseas anti corruption act, and it should adhere to the overseas anti corruption act, It's very, very difficult to do business in China, so they have to study this problem every year. Hong Kong people consciously safeguard the rule of law and clean government in finance. This is a question of who affects who. Whether to use the good to affect the bad or be affected by the bad is a game process. I'm not from Hong Kong, and I don't often come to Hong Kong, but I hope Hong Kong can stick to the good things. Reporter: in addition to corruption, there will also be a phenomenon of class solidification in Chinese society. The "rich second generation" and "official second generation" occupy the best resources. The blocking of rising channels will make many people lose confidence in the future. Zi zhongyun: the problem of social mobility you mentioned is really a big problem in Chinese society now. A society with strong national strength and vitality should be a society with strong mobility. If the children and grandchildren of any class always belong to that class, and young people think they can't live a better life through efforts, then the society will stagnate. The emergence of such a phenomenon in China is a social misfortune. Of course, it can not be said that it is completely the same now. Now the society does not mean that if you are not the "rich second generation" and "official second generation", there will never be a way out. Through your own efforts, there is still room for improvement. Young people can't use this as an excuse to feel that everything is useless and there's no need to work hard. When the opportunity comes, you're not ready. This is your own problem.

In his keynote speech "human nature, culture and system" on July 18, the international and American research expert expressed his views on China's current corruption and institutional problems: when power is not supervised, officials are bound to be corrupt, and ruling by virtue is no longer applicable to modern China. As for China's overseas image, she also said bluntly: "China's promotion of soft power, as long as there are a few 'suicides' and how many Confucius Institutes are opened abroad, it will not save China's face!" In his 100 minute speech, Zi zhongyun repeatedly mentioned the importance of "Enlightenment" to today's China. In her opinion, "Enlightenment" is to resume thinking with one's own mind according to common sense and logic, because in the past quite a long time, Chinese people have lost the ability of independent thinking to varying degrees. In today's China, the most painful problem for her is education. "Among all the problems in China, the problem of education is the most serious". In Zi zhongyun's view, China's current education, starting from kindergartens, teaches extreme utilitarianism that completely stifles creativity and imagination. If China's education does not change, China's ethnic groups will degenerate. Zi zhongyun told reporters: "this process is like degenerated potatoes". As long as you give me space, I dare to say what I want to say Reporter: in recent years, you have spoken more and more on public affairs. After the publication of the anthology, it has aroused great repercussions. Some people call you a public intellectual. Zi zhongyun: I don't like this hat. I've been expressing my opinions all the time, but recently I've suddenly received more attention. I'm also surprised. Of course, this is a good thing. I think this is the progress of society. Maybe it's too good to say so, but I do think so. Therefore, I don't want to know what kind of identity I have, what kind of faction or faction I belong to, and which faction I don't belong to. I just want to maintain my independence. Reporter: in the preface of your optional collection, it is said that from the time sequence of the article, the later it comes, the heavier the mood it expresses. Is reality increasingly disappointing? Zi zhongyun: that's what I mean. In the 1980s, we had high expectations for reform and opening up and were optimistic that we would follow such a path. Later, we found that many things were not satisfactory, and the problems became more and more serious, so my heart became more and more heavy. This is the truth. Then, what to do after disappointment? I don't know what to do. I can only say that if I want to express any opinions, I can't hold it, I will come out and speak. If anyone is affected by my words, it is definitely a good influence, not a bad influence. I believe my views are conducive to social progress. Reporter: after listening to your speech yesterday, some people think you are more open to speak in Hong Kong because the speech environment in Hong Kong is relatively free? Zi zhongyun: it's not because I'm in Hong Kong that I can speak freely. I have spoken these words on many occasions and in many mainland universities. In my speech yesterday, the questions asked by the audience were not too sharp. My previous speech was much sharper. Now as long as you give me space, I dare to say what I want to say. To break the educational deadlock, private schools should be allowed Reporter: this year, the writers' Publishing House invited 100 writers to copy Mao Zedong's speech at the Yan'an Literature and Art Symposium. Some criticized the cynicism of intellectuals, while others said that the speech still has strong practical significance for today's China. What do you think? Zi zhongyun: after the speech of this symposium came out, many scholars were persecuted. Today, we should take it out of context to commemorate this speech and say that art should serve the people, which is applicable at any time. However, literature and art serves politics and a very narrow politics, which itself is a kind of retrogression. (www.lz13. CN) I don't want to comment on those writers who accept the invitation to copy. Everyone has their own ideas. I'm not familiar with most of them, but as far as I know, many people choose to refuse after receiving the 1000 yuan and a letter, which shows that they can't refuse. Therefore, I think that their copying speech is neither coercion nor inducement, Because these writers don't care about the 1000 yuan, they can only say that they have their own ideas. Reporter: you have always been very concerned about China's education. You also said that education in the mainland is a bad education that destroys people. How do you think China's education should go without changing the existing system? Zi zhongyun: I am most worried about education. Education is to cultivate people in a hundred years. If China's education does not change, the race will degenerate, just like potatoes. Because the students you educate will be teachers in another ten years, and then he will use this method to educate the next generation. If this generation goes on, education is constantly destroying people. Parents like to say "don't lose at the starting line". In fact, Chinese children have lost at the starting line. China's current education, starting from kindergartens, teaches extreme utilitarianism that completely stifles creativity and imagination. Education has no other purpose. It just goes to higher education, and the polarization of schools is particularly obvious. If you can't get into the so-called key points, other schools will become sheep herding schools. Why many parents and students choose universities in Hong Kong is because education in Hong Kong is at least normal. Universities in mainland China have been destroyed by the subject system. This completely destroys the most essential thing of education. Of course, there are still a few teachers adhering to the concept, but there are fewer and fewer such people, because this system forces you to do so. For example, the Ministry of education has come to evaluate the 211 and 985 projects. If you can't get in, it will have a great impact on the funds and status of the school, so we use all kinds of abnormal means to drill in. What do you say? I think the only way is to let go of ideas and allow private schools. If the policy can be liberalized, I think China's education will be much better and break the current deadlock. Now mainland China is exporting corruption Reporter: now that the integration of the mainland and Hong Kong is getting closer and closer, what are your expectations for Hong Kong's role in China? Zi zhongyun: the rule of law in Hong Kong, especially the clean government in Hong Kong, has always been valued by everyone, so I think Hong Kong people should be vigilant, because it is very difficult to maintain clean government and it is very easy to corruption. Now mainland China is exporting corruption. Not only Hong Kong, but also many multinational companies feel very troublesome, because the United States has the overseas anti corruption act, and it should adhere to the overseas anti corruption act, It's very, very difficult to do business in China, so they have to study this problem every year. Hong Kong people consciously safeguard the rule of law and clean government in finance. This is a question of who affects who. Whether to use the good to affect the bad or be affected by the bad is a game process. I'm not from Hong Kong, and I don't often come to Hong Kong, but I hope Hong Kong can stick to the good things. Reporter: in addition to corruption, there will also be a phenomenon of class solidification in Chinese society. The "rich second generation" and "official second generation" occupy the best resources. The blocking of rising channels will make many people lose confidence in the future. Zi zhongyun: the problem of social mobility you mentioned is really a big problem in Chinese society now. A society with strong national strength and vitality should be a society with strong mobility. If the children and grandchildren of any class always belong to that class, and young people think they can't live a better life through efforts, then the society will stagnate. The emergence of such a phenomenon in China is a social misfortune. Of course, it can not be said that it is completely the same now. Now the society does not mean that if you are not the "rich second generation" and "official second generation", there will never be a way out. Through your own efforts, there is still room for improvement. Young people can't use this as an excuse to feel that everything is useless and there's no need to work hard. When the opportunity comes, you're not ready. This is your own problem.