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Quick update today. ZABAL was cooking.
I sat down for a BCZ Yaps interview with Jordan (aka Yerberzerker), co-founder of Empire Builder, for a wide-ranging conversation on building sustainable onchain ecosystems.
Watch the episode here:
In this conversation, Jordan walks through his unconventional path into Web3—from outdoor education and digital media to token design—and unpacks the philosophy behind Empire Builder: helping creators and communities move from idea to durable, generative infrastructure.
We dig into digital scarcity, creator tokens, incentives, and why value should be built in products and communities first—not price charts. The second half of the episode becomes a live walkthrough of Empire Builder itself, covering treasuries, leaderboards, boosters, distributions, burns, NFTs, and real-world use cases for community coordination. It’s a practical look at how Web3 tools can actually support creators without extractive mechanics.
We also dropped a new ZABAL Presents: Metaverse Meetups session with Attabotty and GodCloud.
Watch here:
This live, open-ended meetup blends conversation, reflection, and real-time performance. What starts as a music-led warm-up evolves into a wide-ranging discussion on creative process, live experimentation, and long-term collaboration across Web3-native music spaces.
The conversation moves between past moments on the road, major ZAO events like Zella, and forward-looking plans for 2026—including immersive visual performances, ZAO Stock, and new formats for collaborative live shows. Interwoven throughout are live performances—finger drumming, rap verses, improvised beats, and jam segments—foregrounding process over polish.
This session captures the connective tissue behind the work: shared history, trust, and the creative momentum that keeps the collective moving forward.
To close out the day, Adam from Songjam dropped a fire thread breaking down lessons learned from recent launches and live coordination. It’s grounded, practical, and very aligned with what we’ve been seeing play out in real time.
That thread is embedded here for anyone who wants a sharper look at what’s working, what isn’t, and where things are heading:
Worth the read.
– Zaal, from the ZABAL
Quick update today. ZABAL was cooking.
I sat down for a BCZ Yaps interview with Jordan (aka Yerberzerker), co-founder of Empire Builder, for a wide-ranging conversation on building sustainable onchain ecosystems.
Watch the episode here:
In this conversation, Jordan walks through his unconventional path into Web3—from outdoor education and digital media to token design—and unpacks the philosophy behind Empire Builder: helping creators and communities move from idea to durable, generative infrastructure.
We dig into digital scarcity, creator tokens, incentives, and why value should be built in products and communities first—not price charts. The second half of the episode becomes a live walkthrough of Empire Builder itself, covering treasuries, leaderboards, boosters, distributions, burns, NFTs, and real-world use cases for community coordination. It’s a practical look at how Web3 tools can actually support creators without extractive mechanics.
We also dropped a new ZABAL Presents: Metaverse Meetups session with Attabotty and GodCloud.
Watch here:
This live, open-ended meetup blends conversation, reflection, and real-time performance. What starts as a music-led warm-up evolves into a wide-ranging discussion on creative process, live experimentation, and long-term collaboration across Web3-native music spaces.
The conversation moves between past moments on the road, major ZAO events like Zella, and forward-looking plans for 2026—including immersive visual performances, ZAO Stock, and new formats for collaborative live shows. Interwoven throughout are live performances—finger drumming, rap verses, improvised beats, and jam segments—foregrounding process over polish.
This session captures the connective tissue behind the work: shared history, trust, and the creative momentum that keeps the collective moving forward.
To close out the day, Adam from Songjam dropped a fire thread breaking down lessons learned from recent launches and live coordination. It’s grounded, practical, and very aligned with what we’ve been seeing play out in real time.
That thread is embedded here for anyone who wants a sharper look at what’s working, what isn’t, and where things are heading:
Worth the read.
– Zaal, from the ZABAL


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ZM today was about conversations that actually move the work forward. Sat down with Jordan from Empire Builder to talk real infrastructure — treasuries, incentives, coordination, and why value comes from products and communities, not charts. Then tapped back into the creative current with Metaverse Meetups. Process over polish. Trust over hype. Adam also dropped a sharp thread on lessons learned that tied it all together. ZABAL is getting built in public, one real conversation at a time. https://paragraph.com/@thezao/zabal-update-14
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ZABAL presents a two-part overview: a BCZ Yaps interview with Jordan (Yerberzerker) about Empire Builder, token design, and sustainable on-chain ecosystems; and a Metaverse Meetups session with Attabotty and GodCloud on creative process, live performance, and 2026 plans. Authored by @zaal